Okay, here goes!
33 is "Places in the Heart", which won Sally Field the Oscar for Best Actress (where, upon winning, she uttered the memorable line 'You like me, you really like me!')
36 is "The Getaway" - the original, not the awful remake
39 is "Atlantic City"
40 is "Thief"
#21 is The Onion Field
#30 is MASH - one of the all-time funniest films
#4 is A Little Romance, which I believe was Diane Lane's film debut
#31 is The Player
#29 is Jackie Brown
Mario, it seems to me that this list means that as long as you're over 50, retirement is mandatory, right? I can agree with the majority you've placed on your list, whose main goal in their careers nowadays is to milk whatever success they've had in the past and shred whatever semblance of respectability. To this day, the mere mention of the Eagles leaves a foul taste in my mouth. However, I strongly disagree with Bowie, Townshend and Young. I mean, let's look at your arguments closely:
Bowie could have easily turned into one of those nostalgia acts had he followed the "Let's Dance" path. He chose not to, and lost both a fan base he had recently earned and high positions on the charts. And what about Tin Machine? I think he gets unfairly maligned for his experiment in a band environment. As for his collaboration with NIN, why not? Let's face it, David Bowie is the rock from which Trent Reznor, Marilyn Manson, even Madonna, have crawled from under. Their collaboration did indeed make perfect sense.
Townshend lost major points with me years ago for having taken part in get-rich reunion tours. And, yeah, lately a lot of Who songs have made it onto commercials. But the fact is within the past few years he has reinvented himself - just witness his successful resurrection of the Lifehouse project he began back in 1970. If you're not familiar with this project, look it up, and you'll definitely recognize all the ideas he presented, fantasy then, reality now. Oh, and if you didn't see the Who tour last summer, you missed a hell of a show. Sure, I went rather apprehensively, but the truth was it was just Townshend and his bandmates - no background singers, no horn section, no extra guitarists. Just three guys and loads of noise.
Finally, did you forget that Neil Young has an extreme anti-commercialization stance? What do you think "This Note's For You" is all about. Sorry, you're dead wrong about him. He never panders to nostalgia, doesn't go for the cheap collaboration a la Carlos Santana, and doesn't have to recycle past hits to seem relevent again. He's done his thing his way, and it's pissed a lot of people off, and for that I praise him.
Sorry, man, it just seems like you're properly slamming those who have milked their past, and slamming those who are still making respectable music, even if it doesn't sell millions or make the press. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
I wasn't trying to be harsh on your opinion, if you must know. After all, opinions are encouraged here, whether you agree with them or not. But you know, if we're going to be harsh on musicians for one dumb move, then we should probably be including Lou Reed, Peter Gabriel, Bob Dylan and many more. Oh, and it's not written anywhere in stone that a musician has to play a song he hates just to please the fans. If you take that approach, you become Neil Diamond. But then again, if you take the I-don't-care-what-the-fans-think approach, you become Van Morrison. So, okay, I do think you have a valid point.
OH MY GOD!!! Somebody actually remembers "Can't Stop The Music"??? I thought I was the only one who remembered this clusterf**k of a movie. And I dragged to the theatre to watch this, because my dad thought the Village People were cool...
Another film I can suggest to use to torture friends is "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band", starring the Bee Gees and Peter Frampton. Simply embarassing, a new low. I think this movie may have single-handledly wrecked what momentum the Bee Gees and Frampton had at the time.
Yes, I agree with Tarkhadal that Neil Young should not be on this list. He's one of the few that has refused to pander to nostalgia tours or appealing to the lowest common denominator just to sell records. I also must disagree highly with your inclusion of David Bowie. He is also another one who has made interesting album which were largely ignored by a public still demanding "Let's Dance" or some of his more top-40 material. If you would have added Pete Townshend to this list, I would have had to scream bloody murder...
17 is "Hyperactive!" by Thomas Dolby
19 is "Always Something There To Remind Me" by one of those one-hit wonder bands that so infested the 80's musical landscape; actually, I can't remember the name of the band
5 is "Crosstown Traffic" by Jimi Hendrix - how did y'all miss this one???
Point well taken, Bertie, and thank you kindly for your encouragement. When my fertile little mind does come up with another copycat film (although I think we've got all the bases covered here), I shall be sure to post them here.
I'm of the same opinion, actually. I knew it was a real stretch to assume High Fidelity was the inspiration for this site, but I couldn't resist saying it anyway.
Good list, it seems everyone on this list needs a career boost, but I think you'll probably need to remove Jude Law from this list soon. Haven't seen "A.I." yet, but judging by the positive reviews he received, his agent may be flooded with scripts.
One guy who DEFINITELY needs to fire his agent is Nicolas Cage. The man is much too talented an actor to be making crap like "Con Air", "Snake Eyes" and "Gone in Sixty Seconds".
Uh-oh, thought of another one there, Bertie old friend: How about...
PLAY MISTY FOR ME (1972) and FATAL ATTRACTION (1987)
Premise: Two men find themselves in what they think will be nothing more than just a one-night stand, but quickly learn that the women they just had a little tryst with harbor some real deep emotion problems and can't come to terms with being rejected. They're both very good films, but I'll have to go with "Misty" as the better of the two.
You are so right. I can't think of any band recently that has managed to alienate their fans worse than Metallica. And remember when they used to say they would always think of the fans first?
If you haven't purchased "The Planets" yet, be sure you get the one conducted by John Eliot Gardiner (I believe that's how you spell his last name). It's been called the best version of Holst's masterpiece.
Can I play again???
Okay, here goes!
33 is "Places in the Heart", which won Sally Field the Oscar for Best Actress (where, upon winning, she uttered the memorable line 'You like me, you really like me!')
36 is "The Getaway" - the original, not the awful remake
39 is "Atlantic City"
40 is "Thief"
#21 is The Onion Field
#30 is MASH - one of the all-time funniest films
#4 is A Little Romance, which I believe was Diane Lane's film debut
#31 is The Player
#29 is Jackie Brown
Am I right???
Mario, it seems to me that this list means that as long as you're over 50, retirement is mandatory, right? I can agree with the majority you've placed on your list, whose main goal in their careers nowadays is to milk whatever success they've had in the past and shred whatever semblance of respectability. To this day, the mere mention of the Eagles leaves a foul taste in my mouth. However, I strongly disagree with Bowie, Townshend and Young. I mean, let's look at your arguments closely:
Bowie could have easily turned into one of those nostalgia acts had he followed the "Let's Dance" path. He chose not to, and lost both a fan base he had recently earned and high positions on the charts. And what about Tin Machine? I think he gets unfairly maligned for his experiment in a band environment. As for his collaboration with NIN, why not? Let's face it, David Bowie is the rock from which Trent Reznor, Marilyn Manson, even Madonna, have crawled from under. Their collaboration did indeed make perfect sense.
Townshend lost major points with me years ago for having taken part in get-rich reunion tours. And, yeah, lately a lot of Who songs have made it onto commercials. But the fact is within the past few years he has reinvented himself - just witness his successful resurrection of the Lifehouse project he began back in 1970. If you're not familiar with this project, look it up, and you'll definitely recognize all the ideas he presented, fantasy then, reality now. Oh, and if you didn't see the Who tour last summer, you missed a hell of a show. Sure, I went rather apprehensively, but the truth was it was just Townshend and his bandmates - no background singers, no horn section, no extra guitarists. Just three guys and loads of noise.
Finally, did you forget that Neil Young has an extreme anti-commercialization stance? What do you think "This Note's For You" is all about. Sorry, you're dead wrong about him. He never panders to nostalgia, doesn't go for the cheap collaboration a la Carlos Santana, and doesn't have to recycle past hits to seem relevent again. He's done his thing his way, and it's pissed a lot of people off, and for that I praise him.
Sorry, man, it just seems like you're properly slamming those who have milked their past, and slamming those who are still making respectable music, even if it doesn't sell millions or make the press. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
I wasn't trying to be harsh on your opinion, if you must know. After all, opinions are encouraged here, whether you agree with them or not. But you know, if we're going to be harsh on musicians for one dumb move, then we should probably be including Lou Reed, Peter Gabriel, Bob Dylan and many more. Oh, and it's not written anywhere in stone that a musician has to play a song he hates just to please the fans. If you take that approach, you become Neil Diamond. But then again, if you take the I-don't-care-what-the-fans-think approach, you become Van Morrison. So, okay, I do think you have a valid point.
OH MY GOD!!! Somebody actually remembers "Can't Stop The Music"??? I thought I was the only one who remembered this clusterf**k of a movie. And I dragged to the theatre to watch this, because my dad thought the Village People were cool...
Another film I can suggest to use to torture friends is "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band", starring the Bee Gees and Peter Frampton. Simply embarassing, a new low. I think this movie may have single-handledly wrecked what momentum the Bee Gees and Frampton had at the time.
Yes, I agree with Tarkhadal that Neil Young should not be on this list. He's one of the few that has refused to pander to nostalgia tours or appealing to the lowest common denominator just to sell records. I also must disagree highly with your inclusion of David Bowie. He is also another one who has made interesting album which were largely ignored by a public still demanding "Let's Dance" or some of his more top-40 material. If you would have added Pete Townshend to this list, I would have had to scream bloody murder...
Oh, you're no fun!
Okay, the artist in question is Naked Eyes. I thought it was the Fixx or Flock of Seaguls or someone like that.
Now, do I get my prize???
17 is "Hyperactive!" by Thomas Dolby
19 is "Always Something There To Remind Me" by one of those one-hit wonder bands that so infested the 80's musical landscape; actually, I can't remember the name of the band
5 is "Crosstown Traffic" by Jimi Hendrix - how did y'all miss this one???
Come on! How can you not include "Grumpy Old Men"?
Just kidding...
Point well taken, Bertie, and thank you kindly for your encouragement. When my fertile little mind does come up with another copycat film (although I think we've got all the bases covered here), I shall be sure to post them here.
I'm of the same opinion, actually. I knew it was a real stretch to assume High Fidelity was the inspiration for this site, but I couldn't resist saying it anyway.
Good list, it seems everyone on this list needs a career boost, but I think you'll probably need to remove Jude Law from this list soon. Haven't seen "A.I." yet, but judging by the positive reviews he received, his agent may be flooded with scripts.
One guy who DEFINITELY needs to fire his agent is Nicolas Cage. The man is much too talented an actor to be making crap like "Con Air", "Snake Eyes" and "Gone in Sixty Seconds".
Uh-oh, thought of another one there, Bertie old friend: How about...
PLAY MISTY FOR ME (1972) and FATAL ATTRACTION (1987)
Premise: Two men find themselves in what they think will be nothing more than just a one-night stand, but quickly learn that the women they just had a little tryst with harbor some real deep emotion problems and can't come to terms with being rejected. They're both very good films, but I'll have to go with "Misty" as the better of the two.
You are so right. I can't think of any band recently that has managed to alienate their fans worse than Metallica. And remember when they used to say they would always think of the fans first?
If you haven't purchased "The Planets" yet, be sure you get the one conducted by John Eliot Gardiner (I believe that's how you spell his last name). It's been called the best version of Holst's masterpiece.