Re: @theduckthief's problem with Mollom blocking edits to legitimate content.
Today, I made a recommendation to heyrocker that we flag established users (over 6 weeks old) as "safe" and not requiring Mollom filtering. I made the case that the majority of new spam comes from new users. Most spam is posted in the first 3 days. Less than 1% of spammers wait more than 6 weeks before spamming.
I do regular spam patrols for new users, new comments, and new pages. Even if a spammer waits 6 weeks to do their dirty work, they will be detected just the same as before. My suggestion would have minimal effect on my spam patrol effort: http://www.listology.com/jwalling/list/spam-patrol
Note: the majority of spam is in the user profile which may not even be filtered by Mollom.
Heyrocker is considering my suggestion and is looking for other approaches to solving the Mollom blocking problem.
The free Mollom service used by Listology has a daily limit on spam checks. When the daily limit is exceeded, normal edits may be prevented by the Mollom 'logic' depending on the page content. This is a design defect in the Listology-Drupal/Mollom interaction.
I may be exacerbating the Mollom limit problem when I delete spam content. It's a Catch 22.
Heyrocker is moving back to the USA. When he gets settled in, I hope he will address the problems we are seeing with Mollom blocking legitimate updates.
I have stopped reporting spam to Mollom when I delete it. Mollom seems to get hyperactive and over-reacts to additional spam deletions. I don't need to be told I am deleting spam and then getting challenged with Captcha.
One of the problems has to do with a daily limit set on spam filtering by Mollom on its free service and then it starts blocks all edits as spam. Admin (heyrocker) said he would request a higher daily limit. If you can't make an edit try again the next day. That works sometimes in my experience but is not 100% reliable. I think heyrocker is researching an alternative to Mollom http://drupal.org/project/modules/?filters=type%3Aproject_project%20tid%...
postscript,
I am removing daily spam http://www.listology.com/jwalling/list/spam-patrol
There appears to be a daily baseline of 5-20 new spam user accounts, 2-4 new spam articles and comments. However, some days Listology gets a shit load of spam articles and comments posted by humans. Without spam filtering, spambots would pile onto that shit load. I have removed about one third of the old spam posted since late 2010 and will continue chipping away at it.
I liked China Beach also. My other favorite from that period was Twin Peaks (1990-1991). If you saw it as a youngin', you probably couldn't relate to it.
================= Spam Patrol ===================
Last user checked: hooligan
2012-05-26 Deleted 02 spam accounts, 00 spam comments, 0 spam pages
2012-05-25 Deleted 06 spam accounts, 01 spam comments, 0 spam pages
2012-05-23 Deleted 09 spam accounts, 03 spam comments, 0 spam pages
2012-05-22 Deleted 07 spam accounts, 01 spam comments, 0 spam pages
2012-05-19 Deleted 12 spam accounts, 04 spam comments, 2 spam pages
2012-05-16 Deleted 02 spam accounts, 00 spam comments, 0 spam pages
2012-05-15 Deleted 24 spam accounts, 05 spam comments, 0 spam pages
2012-05-11 Deleted 10 spam accounts, 01 spam comments, 0 spam pages
2012-05-09 Deleted 07 spam accounts, 03 spam comments, 0 spam pages
2012-05-08 Deleted 05 spam accounts, 00 spam comments, 0 spam pages
2012-05-06 Deleted 05 spam accounts, 00 spam comments, 0 spam pages
2012-05-04 Deleted 17 spam accounts, 02 spam comments, 0 spam pages
2012-04-30 Deleted 07 spam accounts, 04 spam comments, 0 spam pages
2012-04-29 Deleted 22 spam accounts, 08 spam comments, 0 spam pages
2012-04-24 Deleted 21 spam accounts, 10 spam comments, 1 spam pages
Could you make a distinction between overrated and overexposed?
If Beethoven was played on the radio every hour, would he be "overrated?"
============= Spam Patrol ===============
2012-04-22 Deleted 33 spam accounts, 12 spam comments, 5 spam pages
2012-04-18 Deleted 29 spam accounts, 03 spam comments, 2 spam pages
2012-04-15 Deleted 20 spam accounts, 05 spam comments,
2012-04-10 Deleted 15 spam accounts, 02 spam comments,
2012-04-07 Deleted 02 spam accounts
2012-04-06 Deleted 25 spam accounts, 03 spam comments, 4 spam pages
2012-04-03 Deleted 11 spam accounts
2012-04-01 Deleted 31 spam accounts, 10 spam comments, 1 spam pages
2012-03-28 Deleted 14 spam accounts, 03 spam comments, 3 spam pages
2012-03-27 Deleted 37 spam accounts, 05 spam comments
2012-03-22 Deleted 12 spam accounts, 01 spam comments
2012-03-21 Deleted 26 spam accounts, 02 spam comments
2012-03-17 Deleted 02 spam accounts
2012-03-16 Deleted 23 spam accounts, 07 spam comments
2012-03-11 Deleted 16 spam accounts, 06 spam comments, 2 spam pages
2012-03-07 Deleted 05 spam accounts
2012-03-06 Deleted 08 spam accounts, 01 spam comments
2012-03-05 Deleted 07 spam accounts, 05 spam comments since 3/4
Re: @theduckthief's problem with Mollom blocking edits to legitimate content.
Today, I made a recommendation to heyrocker that we flag established users (over 6 weeks old) as "safe" and not requiring Mollom filtering. I made the case that the majority of new spam comes from new users. Most spam is posted in the first 3 days. Less than 1% of spammers wait more than 6 weeks before spamming.
I do regular spam patrols for new users, new comments, and new pages. Even if a spammer waits 6 weeks to do their dirty work, they will be detected just the same as before. My suggestion would have minimal effect on my spam patrol effort: http://www.listology.com/jwalling/list/spam-patrol
Note: the majority of spam is in the user profile which may not even be filtered by Mollom.
Heyrocker is considering my suggestion and is looking for other approaches to solving the Mollom blocking problem.
================= Spam Patrol ===============
2012-03-04 Deleted 06 spam accounts
2012-03-03 Deleted 17 spam accounts, 01 spam comments, 4 spam pages
2012-02-29 Deleted 10 spam accounts
2012-02-27 Deleted 15 spam accounts, 02 spam comments
2012-02-26 Deleted 05 spam accounts, 01 spam comments
2012-02-25 Deleted 31 spam accounts, 03 spam comments, 1 dup comment
2012-02-22 Deleted 08 spam accounts
2012-02-20 Deleted 10 spam accounts
2012-02-18 Deleted 05 spam accounts
2012-02-17 Deleted 13 spam accounts, 03 spam comments, 1 spam pages
2012-02-14 Deleted 06 spam accounts, 03 spam comments
2012-02-14 Deleted 16 spam accounts, 01 spam comments
2012-02-11 Deleted 17 spam accounts, 01 spam comments since 2012-02-09
Paraphrasing George Wald:
"An astrophysicist is the Universe's way of knowing about the Universe."
=========== Spam Patrol ============
2012-02-09 Deleted 11 spammer accounts, 02 spam comments
2012-02-08 Deleted 08 spammer accounts, 01 spam article
2012-02-07 Deleted 10 spammer accounts, 01 spam comment, 01 pam article
2012-02-07 Deleted 14 spammer accounts, 01 spam article, 04 spam links
2012-02-05 Deleted 08 spammer accounts
2012-02-04 Deleted 08 spammer accounts, 01 spam comment
2012-02-04 Deleted 09 spammer accounts, 01 spam comment
2012-02-03 Deleted 15 spammer accounts, 01 spam comment
2012-02-01 Deleted 13 spammer accounts, 07 spam comments, 01 spam article
2012-01-31 Deleted 06 spammer accounts, 01 spam article
2012-01-31 Deleted 17 spammer accounts, 01 spam comments
2012-01-31 Deleted 17 spammer accounts, 01 spam comments
2012-01-29 Deleted 07 spammer accounts, 07 spam comments
2012-01-28 Deleted 08 spammer accounts, 02 spam comments
2012-01-27 Deleted 36 spammer accounts, 03 spam comments, 01 spam article
2012-01-23 Deleted 10 spammer accounts
2012-01-22 Deleted 14 spammer accounts, 10 spam comments
2012-01-20 Deleted 08 spammer accounts since Jan 18
@Nance
The free Mollom service used by Listology has a daily limit on spam checks. When the daily limit is exceeded, normal edits may be prevented by the Mollom 'logic' depending on the page content. This is a design defect in the Listology-Drupal/Mollom interaction.
I may be exacerbating the Mollom limit problem when I delete spam content. It's a Catch 22.
Heyrocker is moving back to the USA. When he gets settled in, I hope he will address the problems we are seeing with Mollom blocking legitimate updates.
I have stopped reporting spam to Mollom when I delete it. Mollom seems to get hyperactive and over-reacts to additional spam deletions. I don't need to be told I am deleting spam and then getting challenged with Captcha.
=============== Spam Patrol ===============
2012-01-18 Deleted 29 new spammer accounts, 17 new spam comments
2012-01-16 Deleted 12 new spammer accounts
2012-01-15 Deleted 06 new spammer accounts
2012-01-14 Deleted 04 new spammer accounts, 1 new spam comment
2012-01-13 Deleted 38 new spammer accounts, a shit load of new spam comments, 1 spam article
========== Spam Patrol ============
2012-01-07 Deleted 07 spammer accounts
2012-01-08 Deleted 02 spammer accounts
2012-01-09 Deleted 17 spammer accounts, 2 spam comments, 5 spam articles
2012-01-06 Deleted 09 spammer accounts
2012-01-05 Deleted 19 spammer accounts and 94+ spam comments
2012-01-04 Deleted 11 spammer accounts
2012-01-03 Deleted 10 spammer accounts, 2 spam comments
2012-01-02 Deleted 10 spammer accounts, 1 spam article, 2 spam comments
2012-01-01 Deleted 08 spammer accounts
2011-12-30 Deleted 14 spammer accounts
2011-12-28 Deleted 12 spammer accounts
2011-12-27 Deleted 08 spammer accounts
2011-12-26 Deleted 06 spammer accounts
2011-12-25 Deleted 07 spammer accounts
2011-12-24 Deleted 02 spammer accounts, 1 spam comment
One of the problems has to do with a daily limit set on spam filtering by Mollom on its free service and then it starts blocks all edits as spam. Admin (heyrocker) said he would request a higher daily limit. If you can't make an edit try again the next day. That works sometimes in my experience but is not 100% reliable. I think heyrocker is researching an alternative to Mollom http://drupal.org/project/modules/?filters=type%3Aproject_project%20tid%...
postscript,
I am removing daily spam http://www.listology.com/jwalling/list/spam-patrol
There appears to be a daily baseline of 5-20 new spam user accounts, 2-4 new spam articles and comments. However, some days Listology gets a shit load of spam articles and comments posted by humans. Without spam filtering, spambots would pile onto that shit load. I have removed about one third of the old spam posted since late 2010 and will continue chipping away at it.
============= Spam Patrol ===============
2011-12-23 Deleted 11 spam accounts, 01 spam comment
2011-12-22 Deleted 50 spam accounts, 50 spam articles
2011-12-20 Deleted 06 spam accounts
2011-12-19 Deleted 17 spam accounts, 02 spam comments
2011-12-18 Deleted 05 spam accounts
2011-12-17 Deleted 03 spam accounts, 01 nonsense comment
2011-12-16 Deleted 22 spam accounts, 16 spam comments
2011-12-14 Deleted 14 spam accounts, 01 spam comment, 01 gibberish list
2011-12-13 Deleted 12 spam accounts
2011-12-12 Deleted 19 spam accounts
2011-12-10 Deleted 07 spam accounts
2011-12-09 Deleted 10 spam accounts
2011-12-09 Deleted 12 spam accounts
2011-12-07 Deleted 06 spam accounts
2011-12-07 Deleted 03 spam accounts, 01 spam comment
2011-12-05 Deleted 05 spam accounts, 01 spam page
2011-12-04 Deleted 08 spam accounts
2011-12-02 Deleted 19 spam accounts, 02 spam comments
Feif,
I don't have the answer to your request to bypass CAPTCHA for valid users. Heyrocker, the adminsitrator, can answer your request.
My complaint is that I can't delete spam articles without triggering Mollom/CAPTCHA.
FYI
The interactions between Mollom, CAPTCHA, and Drupal are fairly complex and may not allow the degree of control needed to satisfy your request.
http://mollom.com/how-mollom-works
http://drupal.org/project/mollom
http://drupal.org/documentation/modules/mollom
jwalling
I liked China Beach also. My other favorite from that period was Twin Peaks (1990-1991). If you saw it as a youngin', you probably couldn't relate to it.