Isn't that a bit monotheist? To me it always comes back to that old Classicist vs. Romanticist argument. Granted I think I'm a bit Classicist leaning, but I don't discount emotion/expressiveness entirely. Also I think when you look at art from one single perspective you tend to call things "emotional" that aren't particularly. Like North By Northwest. Great film, but it's also a Hitchcock film for crying out loud!
@AsColdAsIce - nice list! I'm especially glad to see Barry Lyndon get such a high spot. I've come to think of it as his finest film along with The Shining. Also nice to see Griffith on here. I'm a big fan of Birth of a Nation. Have you ever seen Intolerance? I sometimes wonder if it isn't his greatest film. Anyways, if you're coming to the Klan meeting don't forget to bring a bed sheet (I know that liking BoaN is merely a code, haha, can't fool me).
So is it okay that a director plays the audience like a fiddle, as long as it's in the service of something worthwhile? And is there any characters you like who are badass and tough? I like fragility too, but I also like a badass character. I mean, with all due respect, Arnold Schwarzenegger could beat the shit outta William Blake.
It's more Ferris Bueller I guess. Breakfast Club wasn't as "whoa-ho look how cool we are", but if you're gonna discount super cool anti-heros well, bye bye film noir in its near entireity. Hughes was dropped about an hour 10 min into the film, by the 2nd group of girls in the resturant.
Well, John Hughes' films are likewise dialog driven with a lot of self-aware nudging of the audience. They're very tightly directed without a lot of space or "searching", which is to say they're confident (or "smug"). Both seem very aware of how cute, cool or charming they are. It's very post-modern as they say. Granted Tarantino is darker, but tone-wise they still seem very similar. I wouldn't be surprised if Tarantino was influenced by him (he even name dropped him in Death Proof).
It just seems a lot of the stuff you criticize in Tarantino films are in other films you love. But perhaps a better question is: what do you like about John Hughes movies? Personally I found the self-awareness and "manipulation" very annoying and felt like I finally knew how people felt about Tarantino.
This is a nice list. I saw Dimensions of Dialogue, great film. Must have been a trying film to make.
Superstar had a great intro, not sure what to think about the rest of the film.
I actually had no luck finding a copy of Ties That Bind ;(
I thought Garden of Earthly Delights was bad tbh. It was just a hasty barrage of colors, without much rhythm or flow. Did he do anything that is actually good? I'm starting to think he's a hack.
Otherwise I think this is a good list. Everything 7+ is pretty much worth seeing, though not the choices I'd make. I'm also reminded of some I missed. You have eclectic taste to say the least.
Nice list. Good to see another Scott Pilgrim fan. Let Me In & Greenburg were also very good. Otherwise I'd recommend: Animal Kingdom, Machete, the Kids are All Right & the Town.
My vote goes to Heaven's Gate. It's universally recongized as a giant pile of shit, was trashed by critics and a box office failure. And although the film is too long and should have been edited down, it contains some of the more impressive film making I've ever seen. Cimino was a great director and some of the scenes are genuis to an epic degree. It wouldn't be out of place on a "greatest photographed films of all time" list.
I recently watched Lost Highway again and was impressed. It's not the experimental failure that I remember it being, but a worthy entry into Lynch's catalog and one his better films. Still, I'm confused as to why you praise the visuals above all. The nicest thing I could say is that they had a kind of Bressonian sparseness and hypnotic pace, but to be honest they looked more like how you'd film a television show. I thought the best part was the intensity of the performances. Bill Pullman was absolutely fantastic, as was Patricia Arquette who is good in everything. Anyways, the fact that you rate LH higher than Eraserhead, Blue Velvet & the Elephant Man just goes to show what an autistic hipster you are.
Also, unless you're a 14 year old girl whose first orgasm came at the behest of a Jean-Paul Belmondo poster, you should really consider taking Amelie off.
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Isn't that a bit monotheist? To me it always comes back to that old Classicist vs. Romanticist argument. Granted I think I'm a bit Classicist leaning, but I don't discount emotion/expressiveness entirely. Also I think when you look at art from one single perspective you tend to call things "emotional" that aren't particularly. Like North By Northwest. Great film, but it's also a Hitchcock film for crying out loud!
@AsColdAsIce - nice list! I'm especially glad to see Barry Lyndon get such a high spot. I've come to think of it as his finest film along with The Shining. Also nice to see Griffith on here. I'm a big fan of Birth of a Nation. Have you ever seen Intolerance? I sometimes wonder if it isn't his greatest film. Anyways, if you're coming to the Klan meeting don't forget to bring a bed sheet (I know that liking BoaN is merely a code, haha, can't fool me).
So is it okay that a director plays the audience like a fiddle, as long as it's in the service of something worthwhile? And is there any characters you like who are badass and tough? I like fragility too, but I also like a badass character. I mean, with all due respect, Arnold Schwarzenegger could beat the shit outta William Blake.
It's more Ferris Bueller I guess. Breakfast Club wasn't as "whoa-ho look how cool we are", but if you're gonna discount super cool anti-heros well, bye bye film noir in its near entireity. Hughes was dropped about an hour 10 min into the film, by the 2nd group of girls in the resturant.
No Charlie Parker? Bo Diddley it is.
Di-did ya just say pomo-nihilisim? Wow.
Well, John Hughes' films are likewise dialog driven with a lot of self-aware nudging of the audience. They're very tightly directed without a lot of space or "searching", which is to say they're confident (or "smug"). Both seem very aware of how cute, cool or charming they are. It's very post-modern as they say. Granted Tarantino is darker, but tone-wise they still seem very similar. I wouldn't be surprised if Tarantino was influenced by him (he even name dropped him in Death Proof).
It just seems a lot of the stuff you criticize in Tarantino films are in other films you love. But perhaps a better question is: what do you like about John Hughes movies? Personally I found the self-awareness and "manipulation" very annoying and felt like I finally knew how people felt about Tarantino.
Now, I'm not implying that people's taste in art is in anyway rational. But how can you like John Hughes and hate Tarantino?
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This is a nice list. I saw Dimensions of Dialogue, great film. Must have been a trying film to make.
Superstar had a great intro, not sure what to think about the rest of the film.
I actually had no luck finding a copy of Ties That Bind ;(
I thought Garden of Earthly Delights was bad tbh. It was just a hasty barrage of colors, without much rhythm or flow. Did he do anything that is actually good? I'm starting to think he's a hack.
Otherwise I think this is a good list. Everything 7+ is pretty much worth seeing, though not the choices I'd make. I'm also reminded of some I missed. You have eclectic taste to say the least.
Nice list. Good to see another Scott Pilgrim fan. Let Me In & Greenburg were also very good. Otherwise I'd recommend: Animal Kingdom, Machete, the Kids are All Right & the Town.
My vote goes to Heaven's Gate. It's universally recongized as a giant pile of shit, was trashed by critics and a box office failure. And although the film is too long and should have been edited down, it contains some of the more impressive film making I've ever seen. Cimino was a great director and some of the scenes are genuis to an epic degree. It wouldn't be out of place on a "greatest photographed films of all time" list.
I recently watched Lost Highway again and was impressed. It's not the experimental failure that I remember it being, but a worthy entry into Lynch's catalog and one his better films. Still, I'm confused as to why you praise the visuals above all. The nicest thing I could say is that they had a kind of Bressonian sparseness and hypnotic pace, but to be honest they looked more like how you'd film a television show. I thought the best part was the intensity of the performances. Bill Pullman was absolutely fantastic, as was Patricia Arquette who is good in everything. Anyways, the fact that you rate LH higher than Eraserhead, Blue Velvet & the Elephant Man just goes to show what an autistic hipster you are.
Also, unless you're a 14 year old girl whose first orgasm came at the behest of a Jean-Paul Belmondo poster, you should really consider taking Amelie off.
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