The 50 Most Influential Records of All Times
Under the Influence - How This List Was Made
Muzik wanted to define the records that had shaped the music we love today. The music that made Basement Jaxx, The Chemical Brothers, Roni Size and System F all possible. Not necessarily the best records ever, although they were hardly going to be stinkers, but the ones which pushed forward a genre, or fused styles to create a new hybrid. The qualities we were looking for were:
Effect on today’s music - Originality
Fusing of existing genres to create new musical styles Music that changed the club scene as well as the sound.
Chosen and written by Ben Turner, Frank Tope, Rob da Bank, Calvin Bush, Dorian Lynskey, Tom Mugridge and Michael Bonner The most important music of the 20th Century. The records which have shaped the music we hear today, from trance to trip hop, from big beat to Basement Jaxx. Everything starts with these...
1. The Beatles “Tomorrow Never Knows” (EMI 1966)(Revolver L.P.)
The Beatles use of drone along with the Velvet Underground which surfaces first on "I Feel Fine" and in its most concentrated in 1965-1966 influenced many forms of rock genres.
To many like Brian Wilson it was Rubber Soul who thought it was Rock first great original album. I guess you forgot to include Revolver or the White Album. I notice you only comment when the Beatles are invovled.
I think "Tomorrow Never Knows" predates what Kraftwerk did. I remember reading this was the most influential track in Modern Dance music. It's all there sampling, electronica, one note bass lines and drum & bass sound. You know acts like the Chemical Brothers and Kraftwerk covered the songs.
The Beatles influence is more far reaching than Led Zeppelin or the Kinks. The Beatles influenced more than say rock music. The Beatles influenced pop music much more than Led Zeppelin. The Beatles influence is felt in multiple genres the Kinks had nil influence on the start of Progressive Rock or Folk Rock. So I disagree. Bands like Pink Floyd, Nice and King Crimson were influenced by the Beatles listening to albums like Revolver and Sgt Pepper.
Any musician can be influenced by the Beatles melodic and interesting chord changes. Musicians with the Beatles sense of melody rarely come along. The list of bands directly influenced by the Beatles today is amazing. Oasis, Radiohead, Death Cab for Cutie, Kaiser Chiefs and even Dream Theatre.
I can relate to the emotional aspect when listening to music. Then there is the other side the actual music that influences musicians and how it impacts music. The Beatles albums had a great influence on Pop Music and Rock Music. The actual experimentation on Revolver and later albums had a great influence on many musicians. You want to ignore it that's really your issue. I am just stating a point.
The Beatles music flows it's very melodic and it's experimental in many cases. A song like "Eleanor Rigby" might sound very pop but it's subject matter is very serious. Music is what you make out of it. People are looking for different things.
Why don't you let Afterhours speak for himself or herself? I never agreed when Rolling Stone or VH1 had five Beatles albums in the top 12 album of all time. I thought that was a slap in the face to other musicians.
I also think that not having a Beatles album among the greatest albums of all time is missing the point entirely. You could rant all you want about the Beatles. They more than anyone else made the Rock Album an art-form and made it more of an artistic statement than say Bob Dylan.
I know their is a certain bracnch of people who are in denial when it comes to the Beatles. I am just curious why are their no Beatles albums? I don't rate Scaruffi in high regard. I don't thinks he is qualified to review music. His article on the Beatles is so flawed that anyone knowing music theory would trounce him in a minute.
Do any of you know the Beatles Lennon/McCartney songs/records, what really seals the deal on them is the changes, and it usually involves some minor chord being used in an "unexpected" place and/or function. Jazz, the better Tin Pan Alley types, and of course, classical composers had all gotten to this before, this opening up of the playing field. But it was Lennon/McCartney who brought it to rock (with maybe a spirit in the dark nudge from Bacharach, maybe).
Not this makes music better but not to acknowledge one Beatles is not knowing the history of rock music or music in General. The Beatles along with Dylan made the album and art-form and basically made it more important than the 45.
Sorry, I would put The Beatles Revolver over Captain Beefhart. What beutiful melody, interesting voicings, interesting chord progressions and innovation don't count. Songs like "Tomorrow Never Knows", "She Said She Said", and "I'm Only Sleeping" sound like what everyone is doing now.
It doesnt take much to look at todays Indie rock scene to seen where The Beatles mark has remained strong. Take in obvious Beatle-influenced acts like Blur, Coldplay, Radiohead or Oasis or even listen to the garage revved sounds of bands like The Hives, The Strokes, Elastica, The White Stripes and the Darkness and then revisit the White Album and you may be surprised at how little things have really changed.
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The 50 Most Influential Records of All Times
Under the Influence - How This List Was Made
Muzik wanted to define the records that had shaped the music we love today. The music that made Basement Jaxx, The Chemical Brothers, Roni Size and System F all possible. Not necessarily the best records ever, although they were hardly going to be stinkers, but the ones which pushed forward a genre, or fused styles to create a new hybrid. The qualities we were looking for were:
Effect on today’s music - Originality
Fusing of existing genres to create new musical styles Music that changed the club scene as well as the sound.
Chosen and written by Ben Turner, Frank Tope, Rob da Bank, Calvin Bush, Dorian Lynskey, Tom Mugridge and Michael Bonner The most important music of the 20th Century. The records which have shaped the music we hear today, from trance to trip hop, from big beat to Basement Jaxx. Everything starts with these...
1. The Beatles “Tomorrow Never Knows” (EMI 1966)(Revolver L.P.)
The Beatles use of drone along with the Velvet Underground which surfaces first on "I Feel Fine" and in its most concentrated in 1965-1966 influenced many forms of rock genres.
To many like Brian Wilson it was Rubber Soul who thought it was Rock first great original album. I guess you forgot to include Revolver or the White Album. I notice you only comment when the Beatles are invovled.
I think "Tomorrow Never Knows" predates what Kraftwerk did. I remember reading this was the most influential track in Modern Dance music. It's all there sampling, electronica, one note bass lines and drum & bass sound. You know acts like the Chemical Brothers and Kraftwerk covered the songs.
The Beatles influence is more far reaching than Led Zeppelin or the Kinks. The Beatles influenced more than say rock music. The Beatles influenced pop music much more than Led Zeppelin. The Beatles influence is felt in multiple genres the Kinks had nil influence on the start of Progressive Rock or Folk Rock. So I disagree. Bands like Pink Floyd, Nice and King Crimson were influenced by the Beatles listening to albums like Revolver and Sgt Pepper.
Any musician can be influenced by the Beatles melodic and interesting chord changes. Musicians with the Beatles sense of melody rarely come along. The list of bands directly influenced by the Beatles today is amazing. Oasis, Radiohead, Death Cab for Cutie, Kaiser Chiefs and even Dream Theatre.
I can relate to the emotional aspect when listening to music. Then there is the other side the actual music that influences musicians and how it impacts music. The Beatles albums had a great influence on Pop Music and Rock Music. The actual experimentation on Revolver and later albums had a great influence on many musicians. You want to ignore it that's really your issue. I am just stating a point.
The Beatles music flows it's very melodic and it's experimental in many cases. A song like "Eleanor Rigby" might sound very pop but it's subject matter is very serious. Music is what you make out of it. People are looking for different things.
Why don't you let Afterhours speak for himself or herself? I never agreed when Rolling Stone or VH1 had five Beatles albums in the top 12 album of all time. I thought that was a slap in the face to other musicians.
I also think that not having a Beatles album among the greatest albums of all time is missing the point entirely. You could rant all you want about the Beatles. They more than anyone else made the Rock Album an art-form and made it more of an artistic statement than say Bob Dylan.
I know their is a certain bracnch of people who are in denial when it comes to the Beatles. I am just curious why are their no Beatles albums? I don't rate Scaruffi in high regard. I don't thinks he is qualified to review music. His article on the Beatles is so flawed that anyone knowing music theory would trounce him in a minute.
Do any of you know the Beatles Lennon/McCartney songs/records, what really seals the deal on them is the changes, and it usually involves some minor chord being used in an "unexpected" place and/or function. Jazz, the better Tin Pan Alley types, and of course, classical composers had all gotten to this before, this opening up of the playing field. But it was Lennon/McCartney who brought it to rock (with maybe a spirit in the dark nudge from Bacharach, maybe).
Not this makes music better but not to acknowledge one Beatles is not knowing the history of rock music or music in General. The Beatles along with Dylan made the album and art-form and basically made it more important than the 45.
Sorry, I would put The Beatles Revolver over Captain Beefhart. What beutiful melody, interesting voicings, interesting chord progressions and innovation don't count. Songs like "Tomorrow Never Knows", "She Said She Said", and "I'm Only Sleeping" sound like what everyone is doing now.
It doesnt take much to look at todays Indie rock scene to seen where The Beatles mark has remained strong. Take in obvious Beatle-influenced acts like Blur, Coldplay, Radiohead or Oasis or even listen to the garage revved sounds of bands like The Hives, The Strokes, Elastica, The White Stripes and the Darkness and then revisit the White Album and you may be surprised at how little things have really changed.