Definitely hop onto Riget II. It maybe isn't *quite* as good as the first season, it's a bit more loose in terms of plot, but the editing/camerawork/atmosphere is still the same. I also think it's funnier, more outrageous and maybe scarier.
I just re-watched Mirror, after getting the Tarkovksy boxset, and liked it even more than on the first watch. I came across this in a review online:
"Andrei Arsenievich Tarkovsky was presented at the screening and he talked to the audience before the show. I remember him repeating over and over that there were no tricks, no puzzles, and no tongue-in-cheeks in the film; that every symbol, image, dialog, and sound was there because they belonged there. He asked us if we had questions. Someone from the audience suggested that we saw the film first, and then, asked questions. Tarkovsky replied that from his experience, not many viewers would sit through the film and who ever would, usually leave in silence, not asking anything. And then he told us a story. After Zerkalo was completed, it was first shown to the group of the famous critics. After watching it, critics started to argue about it, trying to find the hidden meaning and make sense of what they just saw. It went on and on until the cleaning lady who came to the screening room and had been waiting for the end of discussion to do her job, asked them for how long they would stay? Someone said to her that they were discussing a very complicated film, and they needed time to understand it. Cleaning lady asked, "What is that you do not understand in this film? I saw it also, and I understood everything." Critics were silenced for a moment, and then, one of them asked the woman to share her thoughts on Zerkalo. She answered, "It is about a man who had caused too much pain to the ones whom he loved and who loved him. Now he is dying and he is trying to ask them for forgiveness but he does not know how." After the pause Tarkovsky said that he had nothing else to add about his film to what the cleaning lady had to say."
Firstly, I've never done hallucinogenics and very rarely go to clubs. So strike that out. I started listening to 'trance' when I was 15, and my friend gave me an album of stuff. It was mainly the really cheesy anthem uplifting stuff, like Groove Coverage, Kyau & Albert and the like, with a sprinkling of eurodance. I listened to that CD a lot.
Then I found darktremor's list. While I stick more with progressive/Ibiza/chillout trance as opposed to minimalist trance, I find our trance tastes very compatible.
One of the reasons older trance is usually better, barring personal preference, is because back in the day, it was far harder to make electronic music than it is now. I could buy Fruity Loops, and make a passable song in most styles quite quickly today, whereas it would have taken more skill to use the turntables, samplers and keyboards in the early 90s. Because literally anyone can make trance now, the market is flooded by crappy anthem trance. The technology isn't that different, in terms of what can and can't be made, it's just the time it takes to make a song is shorter nowadays. So I really doubt any trance producers are losing sleep over not being able to... add what to a song again? What studio trick could they have done now that they couldn't then?
I'm into all different types of music now, anything from classical, to jazz, to ambience, to other electronic genres, to rock. I still do like trance, but why spend tonnes of time listening to it when I enjoy other genres more? I like expanding my mind musically, not restricting myself.
Just from what I can take from your intro, you sound quite smug and egotistical in saying that 'others think I have exceptional taste in trance'. I'm not sure how old you are, but that sentence is what made me comment here.
Yeah, I was a bit harsh, because everyone, including myself, starts listening to this stuff, and thinks it is really good. I don't really listen to much trance anymore, but I have a list that probably bridges the gap between this one and darktremor's.
I find 'euphoric trance' really really boring and cheesey, but we have similar songs on our lists still, MTM.
I suppose that is what I enjoyed about it, it was constantly engaging, had several memorable scenes, and somehow seemed to cram several movie-length plotlines into one. But I do see your point, and can't really deny anything you said. I just finished L'Avventura, what did you think of that?
I just finished Riget, and can see why it is second. :\
It was extremely good, and reminded me of condensed Twin Peaks at times with how it mixed horror/documentary/comedy/drama. They are also opposites, as The Kingdom feels very personal, while TP is quite distanced and detached.
I am curious as to why it's so high on your overall film list?
1. 2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick)
2. Metropolis (Lang)
3. Mulholland Drive (Lynch)
4. Come & See (Klimov)
5. Barry Lyndon (Kubrick)
6. The Wild Bunch (Peckinpah)
7. Citizen Kane (Welles)
8. City Lights (Chaplin)
9. Seven Samurai (Kurosawa)
10. Cannibal! the Musical (Parker) (Sorry, it's my favourite 'entertaining' movie)
I would make a list, but I don't think I have consolidated a top 10 enough to do so. It would be 1-5 movies I really liked, and 6-10 movies I remember being very good, but saw them once, or not in ages.
And that should be Part III.
Definitely hop onto Riget II. It maybe isn't *quite* as good as the first season, it's a bit more loose in terms of plot, but the editing/camerawork/atmosphere is still the same. I also think it's funnier, more outrageous and maybe scarier.
It kills me that there won't be a part II.
I just re-watched Mirror, after getting the Tarkovksy boxset, and liked it even more than on the first watch. I came across this in a review online:
"Andrei Arsenievich Tarkovsky was presented at the screening and he talked to the audience before the show. I remember him repeating over and over that there were no tricks, no puzzles, and no tongue-in-cheeks in the film; that every symbol, image, dialog, and sound was there because they belonged there. He asked us if we had questions. Someone from the audience suggested that we saw the film first, and then, asked questions. Tarkovsky replied that from his experience, not many viewers would sit through the film and who ever would, usually leave in silence, not asking anything. And then he told us a story. After Zerkalo was completed, it was first shown to the group of the famous critics. After watching it, critics started to argue about it, trying to find the hidden meaning and make sense of what they just saw. It went on and on until the cleaning lady who came to the screening room and had been waiting for the end of discussion to do her job, asked them for how long they would stay? Someone said to her that they were discussing a very complicated film, and they needed time to understand it. Cleaning lady asked, "What is that you do not understand in this film? I saw it also, and I understood everything." Critics were silenced for a moment, and then, one of them asked the woman to share her thoughts on Zerkalo. She answered, "It is about a man who had caused too much pain to the ones whom he loved and who loved him. Now he is dying and he is trying to ask them for forgiveness but he does not know how." After the pause Tarkovsky said that he had nothing else to add about his film to what the cleaning lady had to say."
Have you heard of this?
MTM refers to ModernTranceMusic.
Firstly, I've never done hallucinogenics and very rarely go to clubs. So strike that out. I started listening to 'trance' when I was 15, and my friend gave me an album of stuff. It was mainly the really cheesy anthem uplifting stuff, like Groove Coverage, Kyau & Albert and the like, with a sprinkling of eurodance. I listened to that CD a lot.
Then I found darktremor's list. While I stick more with progressive/Ibiza/chillout trance as opposed to minimalist trance, I find our trance tastes very compatible.
One of the reasons older trance is usually better, barring personal preference, is because back in the day, it was far harder to make electronic music than it is now. I could buy Fruity Loops, and make a passable song in most styles quite quickly today, whereas it would have taken more skill to use the turntables, samplers and keyboards in the early 90s. Because literally anyone can make trance now, the market is flooded by crappy anthem trance. The technology isn't that different, in terms of what can and can't be made, it's just the time it takes to make a song is shorter nowadays. So I really doubt any trance producers are losing sleep over not being able to... add what to a song again? What studio trick could they have done now that they couldn't then?
I'm into all different types of music now, anything from classical, to jazz, to ambience, to other electronic genres, to rock. I still do like trance, but why spend tonnes of time listening to it when I enjoy other genres more? I like expanding my mind musically, not restricting myself.
Just from what I can take from your intro, you sound quite smug and egotistical in saying that 'others think I have exceptional taste in trance'. I'm not sure how old you are, but that sentence is what made me comment here.
Yeah, I was a bit harsh, because everyone, including myself, starts listening to this stuff, and thinks it is really good. I don't really listen to much trance anymore, but I have a list that probably bridges the gap between this one and darktremor's.
I find 'euphoric trance' really really boring and cheesey, but we have similar songs on our lists still, MTM.
I suppose that is what I enjoyed about it, it was constantly engaging, had several memorable scenes, and somehow seemed to cram several movie-length plotlines into one. But I do see your point, and can't really deny anything you said. I just finished L'Avventura, what did you think of that?
Barry Lyndon only 6.5? Why?
Good to see the big cheese make an appearance on this list, surprised that Basterds is your highest rated Tarantino though.
Twin Peaks isn't high enough.
Honestly, whoever told you you have exceptional taste in trance is pretty wrong. Go look at darktremor's top trance list.
Well, I'll be jumping into Riget II soon enough. And it was Bondo!
Also, the end was completely messed up. As I said on my blog, I yelled out 'what the f!ck' at the end.
I just finished Riget, and can see why it is second. :\
It was extremely good, and reminded me of condensed Twin Peaks at times with how it mixed horror/documentary/comedy/drama. They are also opposites, as The Kingdom feels very personal, while TP is quite distanced and detached.
I am curious as to why it's so high on your overall film list?
Thanks, I'm a guy, as you can tell from my macho word-phrasing and such....
Cannibal! the Musical is the goofiest, lamest, corniest movie ever, and is hilarious, extremely memorable and awesome.
Plus I really wanted to see it in a top films list at least once :P
1. 2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick)
2. Metropolis (Lang)
3. Mulholland Drive (Lynch)
4. Come & See (Klimov)
5. Barry Lyndon (Kubrick)
6. The Wild Bunch (Peckinpah)
7. Citizen Kane (Welles)
8. City Lights (Chaplin)
9. Seven Samurai (Kurosawa)
10. Cannibal! the Musical (Parker) (Sorry, it's my favourite 'entertaining' movie)
I would make a list, but I don't think I have consolidated a top 10 enough to do so. It would be 1-5 movies I really liked, and 6-10 movies I remember being very good, but saw them once, or not in ages.