Well alot of the time that is the case. It's the pop-trance or the extremely successful trance songs which most people get to hear... sometimes luring them into trance proper. I admit some cheesy stuff can be catchy and quite good but sometimes.. nearly always actually it just goes too far. I'll try but don't look at me if you get laughed at and repeatedly poked with sticks because some of this stuff can be too embarrassing to listen to with people within a 1 mile radius. If you want good songs IMO, just look at the ones towards the top of my list. Check out darktremor's aswell. For someting like For An Angel try Robert Miles - Children, and Fable aswell. Andy Hunter - Go, FSOL - Papua New Guinea and BT - Flaming June (PVD Mix).
Gigi D'Agostino - Lamour Tujours (actually really good and used to be one of my favourites)
Ian Van Dahl - Try (Michael Woods Remix)
The Mystery - All I Ever Wanted
Rhythm of Life - You Put Me in Heaven With Your Touch
Divine Inspiration - The Way (Svenson and Gielen Remix)
Flip & Fill - Shooting Star
Lasgo - Something
Dee Dee - Forever
Freefall - Skydive
Agnelli & Nelson - Everyday
Wip feat. Emmie - I Won't Let You Down
They're some of the best "cheesy" trance songs i can think of. Hope that helps.
Yeah I pretty much agree with everything you said here and even though trance is in arguably its weakest stage ever you do get a few really good tunes each year. Probably my favourite trance song over the last year or two would be Armin Van Buuren - Shivers. Brings back memories of better times. He's probably been the most consistant of the big DJs IMO. I can't understand people's obsession with Tiesto's Adagio For Strings. Yeah maybe it would be good if there had been no remixes of it already - it's clearly a money spinner. Ferry Corsten's remix is quite frankly unbeatable and Skip Raiders - Another Day is superior aswell IMO but neither have achieved anywhere near the success of Tiesto's. Again Armin's Hymne (not Hymme) and Serenity (the Sensation White Anthem 2005)- two collaborations with Jan Vayne (not to be confused with cheese master Jan Wayne) and Deep Dish - Say Hello, Dogzilla - Without You aswell as a few others are a breath of fresh air TBH.
Simple as.... the 100 songs already up there are better. That doesn't mean it's a bad song because it's pretty good, just not good enough (Music, that is).
But ARRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Slyver - Forever in Love just makes me want to hide in embarrassment :$... absolutely gets a cheese-o-meter rating of 10. I really don't have the guts to check out those other "Slyver" songs after hearing that TBH. Kosheen - Catch is ok BUT I've always loved DJ Encore - I See Right Through To You I just never knew the name of the track.. definetly a great song and I might consider putting it up. THANKS :-) !!
Vocal trance can be the best but can just as easily be the worst... it's just that there's so much crap vocal trance out there it's incredible. But there is about 5% which are absolute gems. Try some of these:
Redd Square - In Your Hands
Sasha & Maria - Be As One
Andrea Britton - Am I on Your Mind
Noemi - In My Dreams
Space Brothers - Shine (Commie Remix)
Lasgo - Something (Flip & Fill Remix)
Agnelli & Nelson - Everyday
Karaja - She Moves
Paul Van Dyk - We Are Alive
Divine Inspiration - The Way (Svenson and Gielen Remix)
Plummet - Damaged (Antillas Remix)
Ian Van Dahl - Try
Three 'N One - Pearl River
Emmie - I Won't Let You Down
Matt Schwartz - Can You Feel
Gigi D'Agostino - Lamour Toujours
Flip & Fill - Shooting Star
Grace - Not Over Yet
DT8 - Winter
IIO - Rapture
True actually... that and For an Angel.. but Resurection considering its mainstream success. Agree about the melody, apparently it was extracted from an old Russian film which is hard to believe because to me, it sounds like one of the most futuristic songs I've ever heard. And from my memory, I can't recall any trance song that was in the charts for so long (at least in recent times anyway (BTW DHT-Listen to Your Heart doesn't count, it's just another awful, awful remix that must just kick the guts out of the artists that actually produce good music) ).
Lol well first of all, get off your 56k shitness!! These days it's probably cheaper to get broadband anyway.. if you want all those incredible DJ sets, you'll need it. Hehe me and darktremor had something going there, but some idiot had to come in and kill all the momentum lol. Oh well.......
If this is what your talking about, then stay away!! I really wouldn't trust anything that doesn't even have songs like Café del Mar, Insomnia, Born Slippy, For an Angel, Ayla, Suburban Train and virtually any widely regarded trance classic. Looks like it was just randomly thrown toghether and looks 80% cheese really. Trust me, don't bother.
Yeah ATB is generally a pretty good trance artist, he does have some quality tunes to his name. I don't like Don't Stop vs Insomnia much, I don't see much point in these 'vs' songs anyway. Both of the original songs are much better, especially Insomnia... I love that one.
I don't know of any trance websites where you can learn the art of producing, Google it and you might find something. Most of the major DJs discovered trance on their own, messing around with sound effects and the like.. You can't just "learn" the art of making trance, and then expect to magically produce trance music just like that. You have to experiment. Regarding software, try Ableton Live, it's a great PC alternative to decks, if you dont have them, use that instead. Some of the major DJs use it (Sasha, PvD, BT, Armin etc.).
Trance classics (Various sub-genres):
Delerium - Silence
4 Strings - Into the Night
Sundance - Won't Let This Feeling Go
Mauro Picotto - Komodo
CRW feat. Veronika - Like a Cat (Tillmann Uhrmacher Remix)
Grace - Not Over Yet (Perfecto Remix)
Sash - Ecuador
Pulser - Cloudwalking
Matt Darey - From Russia With Love (Solar Stone's Red City Remix)
Watergate - Heart of Asia
Ayla - Ayla part II
PPK - Resurection
DT8 - Destination
Freefall - Skydive (I Feel Wonderful)
Andy Moor vs. Above & Beyond - Air For Life
Planet Perfecto - Bullet in the Gun
BBE - 7 Days And 1 Week
Ballroom - 4a.m.
Nalin & Kane - Open Your Eyes
Dejure - Sanctuary
DJ Tiesto - Suburban Train
Ferry Corsten - Fire
Darude - Feel the Beat
Ian Van Dahl - Castles in the Sky (Wippenberg Remix)
Zombie Nation - Kernkraft 400
Agnelli & Nelson - Hudson Street (New York Remix)
Delerium - Underwater (Above and Beyond Mix)
Hampshire & Nysse - Eternal Voices (Airwave's Revenge Mix)
..... ohh, and pretty much whatever I didn't mention that's on the list or I mentioned earlier- I don't wanna repeat myself. Phew!
Thats enough to make them come all over trance nevermind salivate!! :P.
Actually WTWThink your right, BT is an awesome producer in his own right, one of the forgotten innovators in trance IMO. You just have to look through his tracks to realize how much he has contributed: Flaming June, Godspeed, Mercury and Solace, Dreaming, Force of Gravity, Blue Skies, Namistai, Anomaly, Loving You More etc... He's a far better producer than he is a mixer though, probably the worst of the top group (not that he's bad, just the others are far better) which is probably why he isn't as well known and doesn't get as much credit as Tiesto, PvD, Ferry Corsten, Sasha, Armin etc.., those are all-round DJs.
Fortunato and Montresor - Imagine: off Golobal Underground it's a nice track alright, very easy on the ears, soft background vocals, all in all a very nice song.
Future Sound of London - Cascade: One of my favourite ambient tunes and one of my favourites off Northern Exposure I North after Out Of Body Experience. Typical FSOL sounds, very unique.
Prodigy - Break & Enter: I don't like this one. Not actually trance at all and I'm not much of a techno fan to say the least lol. It's just so random and doesn't seem to have any melody, just not my style at all.
Ok well I presume we're talking about the Ferry Corsten mix of Universal Nation.. I know, such an amazing breakdown!!. Check out "The Very Best of Ferry Corsten" which should give you a good idea of him. Sorry I don't really know enough about Solid Globe to give you reliable recommendations from them so I'd just try to get anything under their name. Here's some more tunes with a slightly harder edge (Very few songs are EXACTLY like Universal Nation so you should probably look elsewhere tbh):
Gate - Iron Eden
Signum - What Ya Got For Me
Simple Minds - Theme From Great Cities (Minimalistix Remix)
Delerium - After All (Svenson & Gielen Remix)
4 Strings - Diving
M.I.K.E - Massive Motion
Mario Piu pres. DJ Arabesque - The Vision
Balearic Bill - Destination Sunshine (DJ Tiesto dub)
Marc Et Claude - LA (Moonman's Flashover Mix)
Max Graham - Airtight
Binary Finary - 1998 (PvD Mix)
Push - Tranzy State of Mind
Minimalistix - Close Cover
Evoke - Arms of Loren 2001 (Ferry Corsten Remix)
Ferry Corsten - Rock Your Body Rock
Scott Mac - Damager 02
DT8 -Destination
Sash - Encore Une Fois
Ferry Corsten - Fire
DuMonde vs Lange - Memory
Cascade - Transcend (Moonman Remix)
Andy Hunter - Go
Trance-Atlantic is actually a really good tune, better than Mesmerized IMO. It's very hard to believe that Scooter (the crazy German techno group which songs include "Hello!", "I'm Your Pusher", "Faster Harder Scooter" and.......... "How Much is the Fish"- I mean, seriously, WTF!!) created this!
Simple Minds - Theme From Great Cities (Minimalistix Remix) is ok, certainly not top 100 for me.
Well you could just look at the list and download the songs off that, that is the one of the main uses for it after all. Anyway here's a few random ones, some are similar to the tracks you metioned and some that are not on the list:
Veracocha - Carte Blanche
Ascension - For a Lifetime
CRW - I Feel Love (Pete Pitchard Mix)
BK - Revolution
Push - Strange World (Tranquilo's Underwater Kingdom Mix)
KOTA - Waiting (Mike Koglin vs Darren Tate Remix)
Andain - Summer Calling
DJ Tiesto - Ice Rain
Above and Beyond - No One on Earth (Gabriel and Dresden Mix)
Ayla - Angelfalls
Ferry Corsten - Punk
Thrillseekers - Dreaming of You (Svenson & Gielen Remix)
Blank & Jones - Cream
Mauro Picotto - Lizard (Megavoices Mix)
Tony De Vit - The Dawn
Qattara - The Truth (Coufsat Mix)
Kamaya Painters - Far From Over
Push - The Legacy
Try them and tell me which ones you like and maybe I'll be able to help you out a little more.
It doesn't matter if they're the greatest trance djs, this list is of greatest SONG not artist. And btw, do you really think they are two of the greatest djs? They're good but certainly not up there with the best.
Oakenfold - Southern Sun: Already there.. #49
Warrior - Warrior: I think it's a good song but I'd much prefer If You Want Me. The vocal & non-vocal versions are both better IMO.
Don't think I have the other 2 but I'll look around for them, thanks.
Well alot of the time that is the case. It's the pop-trance or the extremely successful trance songs which most people get to hear... sometimes luring them into trance proper. I admit some cheesy stuff can be catchy and quite good but sometimes.. nearly always actually it just goes too far. I'll try but don't look at me if you get laughed at and repeatedly poked with sticks because some of this stuff can be too embarrassing to listen to with people within a 1 mile radius. If you want good songs IMO, just look at the ones towards the top of my list. Check out darktremor's aswell. For someting like For An Angel try Robert Miles - Children, and Fable aswell. Andy Hunter - Go, FSOL - Papua New Guinea and BT - Flaming June (PVD Mix).
Gigi D'Agostino - Lamour Tujours (actually really good and used to be one of my favourites)
Ian Van Dahl - Try (Michael Woods Remix)
The Mystery - All I Ever Wanted
Rhythm of Life - You Put Me in Heaven With Your Touch
Divine Inspiration - The Way (Svenson and Gielen Remix)
Flip & Fill - Shooting Star
Lasgo - Something
Dee Dee - Forever
Freefall - Skydive
Agnelli & Nelson - Everyday
Wip feat. Emmie - I Won't Let You Down
They're some of the best "cheesy" trance songs i can think of. Hope that helps.
Yeah I pretty much agree with everything you said here and even though trance is in arguably its weakest stage ever you do get a few really good tunes each year. Probably my favourite trance song over the last year or two would be Armin Van Buuren - Shivers. Brings back memories of better times. He's probably been the most consistant of the big DJs IMO. I can't understand people's obsession with Tiesto's Adagio For Strings. Yeah maybe it would be good if there had been no remixes of it already - it's clearly a money spinner. Ferry Corsten's remix is quite frankly unbeatable and Skip Raiders - Another Day is superior aswell IMO but neither have achieved anywhere near the success of Tiesto's. Again Armin's Hymne (not Hymme) and Serenity (the Sensation White Anthem 2005)- two collaborations with Jan Vayne (not to be confused with cheese master Jan Wayne) and Deep Dish - Say Hello, Dogzilla - Without You aswell as a few others are a breath of fresh air TBH.
Simple as.... the 100 songs already up there are better. That doesn't mean it's a bad song because it's pretty good, just not good enough (Music, that is).
But ARRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Slyver - Forever in Love just makes me want to hide in embarrassment :$... absolutely gets a cheese-o-meter rating of 10. I really don't have the guts to check out those other "Slyver" songs after hearing that TBH. Kosheen - Catch is ok BUT I've always loved DJ Encore - I See Right Through To You I just never knew the name of the track.. definetly a great song and I might consider putting it up. THANKS :-) !!
Vocal trance can be the best but can just as easily be the worst... it's just that there's so much crap vocal trance out there it's incredible. But there is about 5% which are absolute gems. Try some of these:
Redd Square - In Your Hands
Sasha & Maria - Be As One
Andrea Britton - Am I on Your Mind
Noemi - In My Dreams
Space Brothers - Shine (Commie Remix)
Lasgo - Something (Flip & Fill Remix)
Agnelli & Nelson - Everyday
Karaja - She Moves
Paul Van Dyk - We Are Alive
Divine Inspiration - The Way (Svenson and Gielen Remix)
Plummet - Damaged (Antillas Remix)
Ian Van Dahl - Try
Three 'N One - Pearl River
Emmie - I Won't Let You Down
Matt Schwartz - Can You Feel
Gigi D'Agostino - Lamour Toujours
Flip & Fill - Shooting Star
Grace - Not Over Yet
DT8 - Winter
IIO - Rapture
True actually... that and For an Angel.. but Resurection considering its mainstream success. Agree about the melody, apparently it was extracted from an old Russian film which is hard to believe because to me, it sounds like one of the most futuristic songs I've ever heard. And from my memory, I can't recall any trance song that was in the charts for so long (at least in recent times anyway (BTW DHT-Listen to Your Heart doesn't count, it's just another awful, awful remix that must just kick the guts out of the artists that actually produce good music) ).
Lol well first of all, get off your 56k shitness!! These days it's probably cheaper to get broadband anyway.. if you want all those incredible DJ sets, you'll need it. Hehe me and darktremor had something going there, but some idiot had to come in and kill all the momentum lol. Oh well.......
If this is what your talking about, then stay away!! I really wouldn't trust anything that doesn't even have songs like Café del Mar, Insomnia, Born Slippy, For an Angel, Ayla, Suburban Train and virtually any widely regarded trance classic. Looks like it was just randomly thrown toghether and looks 80% cheese really. Trust me, don't bother.
Yeah ATB is generally a pretty good trance artist, he does have some quality tunes to his name. I don't like Don't Stop vs Insomnia much, I don't see much point in these 'vs' songs anyway. Both of the original songs are much better, especially Insomnia... I love that one.
I don't know of any trance websites where you can learn the art of producing, Google it and you might find something. Most of the major DJs discovered trance on their own, messing around with sound effects and the like.. You can't just "learn" the art of making trance, and then expect to magically produce trance music just like that. You have to experiment. Regarding software, try Ableton Live, it's a great PC alternative to decks, if you dont have them, use that instead. Some of the major DJs use it (Sasha, PvD, BT, Armin etc.).
Trance classics (Various sub-genres):
Delerium - Silence
4 Strings - Into the Night
Sundance - Won't Let This Feeling Go
Mauro Picotto - Komodo
CRW feat. Veronika - Like a Cat (Tillmann Uhrmacher Remix)
Grace - Not Over Yet (Perfecto Remix)
Sash - Ecuador
Pulser - Cloudwalking
Matt Darey - From Russia With Love (Solar Stone's Red City Remix)
Watergate - Heart of Asia
Ayla - Ayla part II
PPK - Resurection
DT8 - Destination
Freefall - Skydive (I Feel Wonderful)
Andy Moor vs. Above & Beyond - Air For Life
Planet Perfecto - Bullet in the Gun
BBE - 7 Days And 1 Week
Ballroom - 4a.m.
Nalin & Kane - Open Your Eyes
Dejure - Sanctuary
DJ Tiesto - Suburban Train
Ferry Corsten - Fire
Darude - Feel the Beat
Ian Van Dahl - Castles in the Sky (Wippenberg Remix)
Zombie Nation - Kernkraft 400
Agnelli & Nelson - Hudson Street (New York Remix)
Delerium - Underwater (Above and Beyond Mix)
Hampshire & Nysse - Eternal Voices (Airwave's Revenge Mix)
..... ohh, and pretty much whatever I didn't mention that's on the list or I mentioned earlier- I don't wanna repeat myself. Phew!
Thats enough to make them come all over trance nevermind salivate!! :P.
Ummmmm......no. Don't mind this guy.
HAHAHA!! Great stuff!! lmao :D
Actually WTWThink your right, BT is an awesome producer in his own right, one of the forgotten innovators in trance IMO. You just have to look through his tracks to realize how much he has contributed: Flaming June, Godspeed, Mercury and Solace, Dreaming, Force of Gravity, Blue Skies, Namistai, Anomaly, Loving You More etc... He's a far better producer than he is a mixer though, probably the worst of the top group (not that he's bad, just the others are far better) which is probably why he isn't as well known and doesn't get as much credit as Tiesto, PvD, Ferry Corsten, Sasha, Armin etc.., those are all-round DJs.
Fortunato and Montresor - Imagine: off Golobal Underground it's a nice track alright, very easy on the ears, soft background vocals, all in all a very nice song.
Future Sound of London - Cascade: One of my favourite ambient tunes and one of my favourites off Northern Exposure I North after Out Of Body Experience. Typical FSOL sounds, very unique.
Prodigy - Break & Enter: I don't like this one. Not actually trance at all and I'm not much of a techno fan to say the least lol. It's just so random and doesn't seem to have any melody, just not my style at all.
Ok well I presume we're talking about the Ferry Corsten mix of Universal Nation.. I know, such an amazing breakdown!!. Check out "The Very Best of Ferry Corsten" which should give you a good idea of him. Sorry I don't really know enough about Solid Globe to give you reliable recommendations from them so I'd just try to get anything under their name. Here's some more tunes with a slightly harder edge (Very few songs are EXACTLY like Universal Nation so you should probably look elsewhere tbh):
Gate - Iron Eden
Signum - What Ya Got For Me
Simple Minds - Theme From Great Cities (Minimalistix Remix)
Delerium - After All (Svenson & Gielen Remix)
4 Strings - Diving
M.I.K.E - Massive Motion
Mario Piu pres. DJ Arabesque - The Vision
Balearic Bill - Destination Sunshine (DJ Tiesto dub)
Marc Et Claude - LA (Moonman's Flashover Mix)
Max Graham - Airtight
Binary Finary - 1998 (PvD Mix)
Push - Tranzy State of Mind
Minimalistix - Close Cover
Evoke - Arms of Loren 2001 (Ferry Corsten Remix)
Ferry Corsten - Rock Your Body Rock
Scott Mac - Damager 02
DT8 -Destination
Sash - Encore Une Fois
Ferry Corsten - Fire
DuMonde vs Lange - Memory
Cascade - Transcend (Moonman Remix)
Andy Hunter - Go
Trance-Atlantic is actually a really good tune, better than Mesmerized IMO. It's very hard to believe that Scooter (the crazy German techno group which songs include "Hello!", "I'm Your Pusher", "Faster Harder Scooter" and.......... "How Much is the Fish"- I mean, seriously, WTF!!) created this!
Simple Minds - Theme From Great Cities (Minimalistix Remix) is ok, certainly not top 100 for me.
Thanks :-). Yeah it's a fine song alright but come on Café del Mar!! lol jk.
Well you could just look at the list and download the songs off that, that is the one of the main uses for it after all. Anyway here's a few random ones, some are similar to the tracks you metioned and some that are not on the list:
Veracocha - Carte Blanche
Ascension - For a Lifetime
CRW - I Feel Love (Pete Pitchard Mix)
BK - Revolution
Push - Strange World (Tranquilo's Underwater Kingdom Mix)
KOTA - Waiting (Mike Koglin vs Darren Tate Remix)
Andain - Summer Calling
DJ Tiesto - Ice Rain
Above and Beyond - No One on Earth (Gabriel and Dresden Mix)
Ayla - Angelfalls
Ferry Corsten - Punk
Thrillseekers - Dreaming of You (Svenson & Gielen Remix)
Blank & Jones - Cream
Mauro Picotto - Lizard (Megavoices Mix)
Tony De Vit - The Dawn
Qattara - The Truth (Coufsat Mix)
Kamaya Painters - Far From Over
Push - The Legacy
Try them and tell me which ones you like and maybe I'll be able to help you out a little more.
It doesn't matter if they're the greatest trance djs, this list is of greatest SONG not artist. And btw, do you really think they are two of the greatest djs? They're good but certainly not up there with the best.
Oakenfold - Southern Sun: Already there.. #49
Warrior - Warrior: I think it's a good song but I'd much prefer If You Want Me. The vocal & non-vocal versions are both better IMO.
Don't think I have the other 2 but I'll look around for them, thanks.
Lol, I think it's too late bro....he's gone .... there's nothing we can do now, lets move on to someone we can save...