Interesting list. Would this still look the same now for you? For me I'd say:
The Velvet Underground: LCD Soundsystem (though Hawtin fits too)
Robert Wyatt: Burial
Faust: Ricardo Villalobos
Pere Ubu: Daft Punk
Red Krayola: ? (Not sure I agree with Tobin)
Frank Zappa: The KLF
My Bloody Valentine: M83
Captain Beefheart: Amon Tobin
The Doors: The Prodigy
Bob Dylan: Kanye West (Hate away people)
Chuck Berry: Kraftwerk
Tim Buckey: Spring Heel Jack
Pink Floyd: Simon Posford (Hallucinogen/Shpongle)
The Beatles: Basement Jaxx
Jimi Hendrix: Simon Berry (Art of Trance/Union Jack)
And for kicks a few more:
Joy Division: ...New Order
Beach Boys: Animal Collective
King Crimson: Autechre
Radiohead: Portishead
Bullet For My Valentine: Skrillex
Like Afterhours said, many of these are excellent films. Werckmeister Harmonies, Aguirre: The Wrath of God and Metropolis would probably all make my top 10 films of all time so naturally I recommend them sooner than later!
This list is outdated now, I don't really have an order beyond the top 10 and those have changed slightly. For anyone who cares the updated list is on icheckmovies.com and my username is 'khriz' like on here.
Nice reviews so far, I agree with a lot you've said. I really should finish my Orbital reviews at some point but haven't really focused on music much recently (mostly been films). After I've done In Sides though it's all gonna go downhill in my reviews and there'll be very little motivation; tracks like Beached have no personality. Have you heard the track Omen by any chance? I think it may be available on youtube. I used to think it was pretty good but these days I think it may be the best track they did before The Brown Album - truly haunting stuff and great vocal work/melodic hook. Such a shame it is hidden away on an early EP and hasn't been remembered.
If you check out the spreadsheet for TSPDT on the points total each film in the list gets according to their calculations you will get a better idea of exactly how critically acclaimed each film is in comparison to one another, better than merely their ranking. Citizen Kane gets 1217.42. Second place is Vertigo with 720.38! After this there is never a gap of even 100 points between two rankings. I knew Kane was the most acclaimed but this really made me realise that it'll probably always remain first because it's a fairly unanimous choice amoung all critics to at least highly regard it due to it's innovations even if they don't love it. I do think there is something in the Roger Ebert argument however, that a lot of critics like to pick it because of what it represents - unlimited artistic control, or the pure auteur at work. Even more important was this occurred in Hollywood and never did again in the studio era (though Godard would be given unlimited funding etc for Contempt in Europe which was probably even more of a nightmare for its producers). Kane was made as a vision or as art not for money as Hollywood was usually viewed. So it is like the critics sticking their middle fingers up at the box office trash and Hollywood as a whole. Don't get me wrong I'd rank it probably my fifth favourite film personally and it has huge technical importance but I definitely think the total disregard for the box office and hence uncompromised nature of the film plays a part in its leading of the canon.
I'm interested to know your thoughts on Werner Herzog, more specifically Aguirre, The Wrath of God which unexpectedly blew me away. I would have thought aesthetically he would be your thing? Though that's quite a bold statement as currently I've only seen Aguirre.
Only the odd song so I can't really comment other than to say the further back you go the more dnb, the further forward after Amassed the more jazz. Disappeared was probably the most 50-50 album they did. Yeah, genres where the main focus is timbre. The thing about timbre-based works as opposed to melodic, harmonic and to some extent rhythmic works is that it's really hard to say what it is that is good about them. E.g. reviews of Irrlicht going off on metaphors about space etc. Certainly very hit and miss which is why most of those Scaruffi endorsed noise artists of the last decade offer nothing.
Another artist that has come to me from 00s is Evangelista. If you like Meridith Monk check her out.
EDIT: Also, although some of the AC stuff is pretty Pet Sounds like, I think Person Pitch is more dreamy than that; more like late MBV.
What is your opinion of OFWGKTA and Tyler the Creator in general? I notice you have Ghostface Killah on your list, do you like any of the other Wu Tang releases? Also, do you like any hip hop older than Endtroducing...? Like Eric B. & Rakim, Public Enemy etc.
If you liked Amassed check out Disappeared also by Spring Heel Jack. It's less jazz, more dnb but still very good, especially Galina. Also check out all the Amon Tobin albums from this decade; all are worth a listen, especially Out, From Out Where which is nearly as good as Bricolage.
If you're up for some ambient, Elegi - Varde and Aglaia - 3 Organic Experiences are worth tracking down but you'll not find the second without slsk.
I'm also gonna say Portishead - Third and Godspeed! You Black Emperor, the latter if you like Schulze/Tangerine Dream. And finally second Elston's rec of Person Pitch.
A perfect example of Scaruffi overlooking songwriting is Doolitle. That is perhaps the peak of blending experimentalism and variety within the conventional song format. But according to him it sits in Surfer Rosa's shadow. So yeah, I'm siding with the hipsters on that one, Doolitle is better. At least we can all agree Bossanova sucks...oh wait it's Francis Black's favourite.
I have to enlighten you though, Springsteen is indeed fail, especially The River. Gimme some Neil Young over 'the boss' any day.
Talk to Her is a solid film that has an interesting emotional spin on it. I saw it on the same day as The Rules of the Game and 8½ so I guess it hasn't made the largest impact, especially compared to the latter, but I enjoyed it so I'll check out some of his other work at some point.
Will be sure to check those out at some point. Hmm, as I'm sure you've seen the bigger films of 2010 anyway I'll recommend Enter The Void if you haven't seen it yet as you rate Irréversible highly. I've also heard Of Gods & Men is supposed to be good but I haven't checked that out yet.
To be honest at the moment I'm mostly playing catch up with filling in some fairly major holes in my viewing history so I haven't seen a lot of recent films other than the obvious ones (Toy Story 3, Inception, The Social Network, Black Swan, The King's Speech, True Grit blah blah).
I thought The White Ribbon was excellent though extremely unnerving viewing.
I genuinely thought as a joke that the link would be for Rebecca Black - Friday. The track does indeed sound good. Good to see you liked King of Limbs; bit less that you didn't like Let England Shake. Any opinions on older PJ Harvey stuff?
Interesting list. Would this still look the same now for you? For me I'd say:
The Velvet Underground: LCD Soundsystem (though Hawtin fits too)
Robert Wyatt: Burial
Faust: Ricardo Villalobos
Pere Ubu: Daft Punk
Red Krayola: ? (Not sure I agree with Tobin)
Frank Zappa: The KLF
My Bloody Valentine: M83
Captain Beefheart: Amon Tobin
The Doors: The Prodigy
Bob Dylan: Kanye West (Hate away people)
Chuck Berry: Kraftwerk
Tim Buckey: Spring Heel Jack
Pink Floyd: Simon Posford (Hallucinogen/Shpongle)
The Beatles: Basement Jaxx
Jimi Hendrix: Simon Berry (Art of Trance/Union Jack)
And for kicks a few more:
Joy Division: ...New Order
Beach Boys: Animal Collective
King Crimson: Autechre
Radiohead: Portishead
Bullet For My Valentine: Skrillex
Like Afterhours said, many of these are excellent films. Werckmeister Harmonies, Aguirre: The Wrath of God and Metropolis would probably all make my top 10 films of all time so naturally I recommend them sooner than later!
This list is outdated now, I don't really have an order beyond the top 10 and those have changed slightly. For anyone who cares the updated list is on icheckmovies.com and my username is 'khriz' like on here.
Pink Floyd and Van Der Graaf Generator both pose similar problems with some better looking guys being offset by...yeaaaah, Roger Waters anyone?
Nice reviews so far, I agree with a lot you've said. I really should finish my Orbital reviews at some point but haven't really focused on music much recently (mostly been films). After I've done In Sides though it's all gonna go downhill in my reviews and there'll be very little motivation; tracks like Beached have no personality. Have you heard the track Omen by any chance? I think it may be available on youtube. I used to think it was pretty good but these days I think it may be the best track they did before The Brown Album - truly haunting stuff and great vocal work/melodic hook. Such a shame it is hidden away on an early EP and hasn't been remembered.
If you check out the spreadsheet for TSPDT on the points total each film in the list gets according to their calculations you will get a better idea of exactly how critically acclaimed each film is in comparison to one another, better than merely their ranking. Citizen Kane gets 1217.42. Second place is Vertigo with 720.38! After this there is never a gap of even 100 points between two rankings. I knew Kane was the most acclaimed but this really made me realise that it'll probably always remain first because it's a fairly unanimous choice amoung all critics to at least highly regard it due to it's innovations even if they don't love it. I do think there is something in the Roger Ebert argument however, that a lot of critics like to pick it because of what it represents - unlimited artistic control, or the pure auteur at work. Even more important was this occurred in Hollywood and never did again in the studio era (though Godard would be given unlimited funding etc for Contempt in Europe which was probably even more of a nightmare for its producers). Kane was made as a vision or as art not for money as Hollywood was usually viewed. So it is like the critics sticking their middle fingers up at the box office trash and Hollywood as a whole. Don't get me wrong I'd rank it probably my fifth favourite film personally and it has huge technical importance but I definitely think the total disregard for the box office and hence uncompromised nature of the film plays a part in its leading of the canon.
I'm interested to know your thoughts on Werner Herzog, more specifically Aguirre, The Wrath of God which unexpectedly blew me away. I would have thought aesthetically he would be your thing? Though that's quite a bold statement as currently I've only seen Aguirre.
I have heard of Donuts but not heard it. Really should check it out at some point as it looks like the sort of thing I'd like.
Only the odd song so I can't really comment other than to say the further back you go the more dnb, the further forward after Amassed the more jazz. Disappeared was probably the most 50-50 album they did. Yeah, genres where the main focus is timbre. The thing about timbre-based works as opposed to melodic, harmonic and to some extent rhythmic works is that it's really hard to say what it is that is good about them. E.g. reviews of Irrlicht going off on metaphors about space etc. Certainly very hit and miss which is why most of those Scaruffi endorsed noise artists of the last decade offer nothing.
Another artist that has come to me from 00s is Evangelista. If you like Meridith Monk check her out.
EDIT: Also, although some of the AC stuff is pretty Pet Sounds like, I think Person Pitch is more dreamy than that; more like late MBV.
What is your opinion of OFWGKTA and Tyler the Creator in general? I notice you have Ghostface Killah on your list, do you like any of the other Wu Tang releases? Also, do you like any hip hop older than Endtroducing...? Like Eric B. & Rakim, Public Enemy etc.
If you liked Amassed check out Disappeared also by Spring Heel Jack. It's less jazz, more dnb but still very good, especially Galina. Also check out all the Amon Tobin albums from this decade; all are worth a listen, especially Out, From Out Where which is nearly as good as Bricolage.
If you're up for some ambient, Elegi - Varde and Aglaia - 3 Organic Experiences are worth tracking down but you'll not find the second without slsk.
I'm also gonna say Portishead - Third and Godspeed! You Black Emperor, the latter if you like Schulze/Tangerine Dream. And finally second Elston's rec of Person Pitch.
A perfect example of Scaruffi overlooking songwriting is Doolitle. That is perhaps the peak of blending experimentalism and variety within the conventional song format. But according to him it sits in Surfer Rosa's shadow. So yeah, I'm siding with the hipsters on that one, Doolitle is better. At least we can all agree Bossanova sucks...oh wait it's Francis Black's favourite.
I have to enlighten you though, Springsteen is indeed fail, especially The River. Gimme some Neil Young over 'the boss' any day.
Talk to Her is a solid film that has an interesting emotional spin on it. I saw it on the same day as The Rules of the Game and 8½ so I guess it hasn't made the largest impact, especially compared to the latter, but I enjoyed it so I'll check out some of his other work at some point.
Will be sure to check those out at some point. Hmm, as I'm sure you've seen the bigger films of 2010 anyway I'll recommend Enter The Void if you haven't seen it yet as you rate Irréversible highly. I've also heard Of Gods & Men is supposed to be good but I haven't checked that out yet.
To be honest at the moment I'm mostly playing catch up with filling in some fairly major holes in my viewing history so I haven't seen a lot of recent films other than the obvious ones (Toy Story 3, Inception, The Social Network, Black Swan, The King's Speech, True Grit blah blah).
I thought The White Ribbon was excellent though extremely unnerving viewing.
I genuinely thought as a joke that the link would be for Rebecca Black - Friday. The track does indeed sound good. Good to see you liked King of Limbs; bit less that you didn't like Let England Shake. Any opinions on older PJ Harvey stuff?