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THE GREATEST ALBUMS OF ALL TIME (Rankings 42-31)

Very interested to see the new Joanna Newson record on here! I had it earmarked as one of the 2006 releases I should listen to, but that's high praise indeed.

11/21/2006 View
THE GREATEST ALBUMS OF ALL TIME (Rankings 30-21)

I've listened to the majority of the albums on this list with the exception of a few of the 90s ones, but I must say that these newest additions are especially close to my heart. Particularly In The Aeroplane Over The Sea, which is one of the top albums of my (admittedly brief) lifetime. Cheers, I'm looking forward to seeing the rest.

9/15/2006 View
AMAZING ALBUMS

I find that reissues often undertake to rewrite history in that manner, adding contemporaneous singles even when the track listing needs to be altered. Usually they're appended to the end of the album, though...

I eagerly await the opportunity to hear the rest of Y without having to buy the japanese import beforehand.

8/27/2006 View
Which Song(s) will top Pitchfork's Top 200 Songs of the 60s?

I think that there are numerical considerations that pretty much doom any list like this one to domination by singles. Vote-splitting becomes too great a factor when classic album tracks come into play. AfterHours, your mention of Astral Weeks is a great example of what I mean; if you had a dozen writers who all agreed beforehand that it was indisputably the greatest album ever, you'd probably find it difficult to get even a third of them to agree on the best track. I find that really mind-blowing albums often have this effect, and the result is that the best-known or most radio-friendly songs ("Sweet Thing" being the standout in this case) appear in a modest position on the list.

On the other hand, I doubt that the great majority of the Pitchfork writers even own a Supremes album, but it's very easy for them to agree on the four or five best Supremes songs and so these all received lots of votes and appeared on the list. Artists who have a few consensus "masterpiece" songs flourish in these kinds of list.

So although I'd have loved to see a top 10 that contained "Madame George," "Sister Ray," "Heroin," and "Desolation Row," I understand that this isn't very likely and react to the results accordingly.

8/25/2006 View
AMAZING ALBUMS

I need to listen to Y as well. As one who doesn't adhere to legal methods nearly as strictly as you, I've still find it hard to get a "free" copy, except for the stunning single "She Is Beyond Good And Evil."

8/23/2006 View
Which Song(s) will top Pitchfork's Top 200 Songs of the 60s?

No worries. As much as I approve of the Pitchfork list in a general way, mine would be very different. There'd definitely be three songs from Astral Weeks in the top 30 or so. Dylan would have much stronger representation as well.

8/23/2006 View
Which Song(s) will top Pitchfork's Top 200 Songs of the 60s?

By the way, AfterHours, I do think that Pet Sounds is canonized undeservedly. However, my respect for "Wouldn't It Be Nice" and "God Only Knows" (the only songs which I had heard previous to hearing the album in its entirety) survived intact despite my disappointment with the album as a whole. "God Only Knows" in particular I find to be perhaps the best pop song of the decade.

I think that your disgust with it is misplaced because as you seem to attribute its popularity to the blind momentum of years of critical praise rather than a conscious appreciation of its merits by individual listeners. It seems very clear that the fans of "God Only Knows" simply have a different set of musical priorities than you do. Calling them mindless trend-followers is absurd, because no one will listen to a song over and over again forty years after its release without enjoying it for its own sake. There is something inherent in the song which people enjoy, whether you agree with them or not.

Oh, and I also think that Blonde On Blonde blows Revolver away as the best album of 1966.

8/21/2006 View
Which Song(s) will top Pitchfork's Top 200 Songs of the 60s?

It'd probably be fairly high, I think. Too many different kinds of music fans adore the Beach Boys for it to fall very far. I actually don't think it would get into the top 5 (maybe not even the top 10). Two tracks in the top ten seems impressive, but I feel that it's a very top-heavy album; there's a large dropoff in the quality of the songs after "God Only Knows" and "Wouldn't It Be Nice," both of which I consider to be classics. My top 20 would have included a number of the same songs, so I can't say I'm disappointed with the results. I actually think that The Velvet Underground & Nico would have topped the list. Four of its songs were present, three in the top 100. I'm fairly sure that no other album had more than two entries, and the only examples I can recall are Odessey & Oracle ("Care Of Cell 44" and "This Will Be Our Year") Revolver ("Eleanor Rigby" and "Tomorrow Never Knows") and Pet Sounds.

8/20/2006 View
Which Song(s) will top Pitchfork's Top 200 Songs of the 60s?

Good point that there'll probably be 2 Hendrix tracks. Another strong possibility is a song from Led Zeppelin's first album, maybe "Communication Breakdown."

8/18/2006 View
Which Song(s) will top Pitchfork's Top 200 Songs of the 60s?

Hmm...I don't know why you can't see the list, the current installation is listed under the features on the pitchfork front page. 60-21 is today.

8/17/2006 View
Which Song(s) will top Pitchfork's Top 200 Songs of the 60s?

Some more "out there" guesses of mine would include songs from the following albums:

Astral Weeks ("Sweet Thing" joined already, perhaps "Astral Weeks," "Madame George," or "Cyprus Avenue." This seems increasingly likely the more I think about it.)
White Light/White Heat
Safe As Milk

8/17/2006 View
Which Song(s) will top Pitchfork's Top 200 Songs of the 60s?

Here's the list as of today if you can't find it. Only the top 20 remains a mystery:

200 Sunny Afternoon - Kinks
199 Black Is The Color Of My True Love's Hair - Nina Simone
198 Walk On By - Dionne Warwick
197 Solo Dancer - Charles Mingus
196 Time Is On My Side - Irma Thomas
195 Night Train (Live At The Apollo) - James Brown
194 Build Me Up Buttercup - Foundations
193 Jackson - Johnny And June Carter Cash
192 I'm Still In Love With You - Alton Ellis
191 Mercy, Mercy, Mercy - Cannonball Adderly Quintet
190 So Long, Marianne - Leonard Cohen
189 Strychnine - Sonics
188 Debora - Tyrannosaurus Rex
187 The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore - Walker Brothers
186 Bus Stop - Hollies
185 Get Ready - Temptations
184 Mother Popcorn - James Brown
183 Beyond The Sea - Bobby Darin
182 She's Got You - Patsy Cline
181 Laisse Tomber Les Filles - France Gall
180 Moulty - Barbarians
179 Armee Guineenne - Bembeya Jazz National
178 I've Been Loving You Too Long (To Stop Now) - Otis Redding
177 Egyptian Shumba - Tammys
176 Kick Out The Jams - MC5
175 Don't Come Home A Drinkin' (With Lovin' On Your Mind) - Loretta Lynn
174 Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) - Darlene Love
173 I Ain't Marching Anymore - Phil Ochs
172 Here I Go Again - Archie Bell & The Drells
171 Sweet Caroline - Neil Diamond
170 Tous Les Garcons Et Les Filles - Francoise Hardy
169 Uptight (Everything's Alright) - Stevie Wonder
168 Ghosts - Albert Ayler
167 Different Drum - Stone Poneys
166 Nothing But A Heartache - Flirtations
165 Monk Time - Monks
164 It Was A Very Good Year - Frank Sinatra
163 Caledonia - Cromagnon
162 I Can See For Miles - Who
161 She's Not There - Zombies
160 A Minha Menina - Os Mutantes
159 Astronomy Domine - Pink Floyd
158 The First Cut Is The Deepest - P. P. Arnold
157 Do Right Woman, Do Right Man - Aretha Franklin
156 Fist City - Loretta Lynn
155 Bad Moon Rising - Creedence Clearwater Revival
154 Louie Louie - Kingsmen
153 Stay With Me - Lorraine Ellison
152 Never My Love - Association
151 The Human Abstract - David Axelrod
150 It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding) - Bob Dylan
149 Tighten Up - Archie Bell & The Drells
148 Sister Ray - Velvet Underground
147 Sinnerman - Nina Simone
146 In C - Terry Riley
145 Stand By Your Man - Tammy Wynette
144 Ode To Billie Joe - Bobbie Gentry
143 Big Louise - Scott Walker
142 A Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procul Harum
141 Baby Love - Supremes
140 Season Of The Witch - Donovan
139 People Get Ready - Impressions
138 Unchained Melody - Righteous Brothers
137 Iko Iko - Dixie Cups
136 Voodoo Child (Slight Return) - Jimi Hendrix
135 Shangri-La - Kinks
134 Surf's Up (Solo Piano Version) - Brian Wilson
133 I'm A Believer - Monkees
132 What A Wonderful World - Louis Armstrong
131 I'll Feel A Whole Lot Better - Byrds
130 My Favorite Things - John Coltrane
129 Everybody's Talkin' - Harry Nilsson
128 For What It's Worth - Buffalo Springfield
127 She Thinks I Still Care - George Jones
126 What Is And What Should Never Be - Led Zeppelin
125 Shhh/Peaceful - Miles Davis
124 Venus In Furs - Velvet Underground
123 I Hear A Symphony - Supremes
122 I Fall To Pieces - Patsy Cline
121 Wichita Lineman - Glen Campbell
120 ? And The Mysterians - 96 Tears
119 Oscillations - Silver Apples
118 I Fought The Law - Bobby Fuller Four
117 Stand By Me - Ben E. King
116 White Rabbit - Jefferson Airplane
115 Victoria - Kinks
114 These Boots Are Made For Walkin' - Nancy Sinatra
113 Friday On My Mind - Easybeats
112 It's Gonna Rain - Steve Reich
111 I Was Made To Love Her - Stevie Wonder
110 It's The Same Old Song - Four Tops
109 Eight Miles High - Byrds
108 One - Harry Nilsson
107 Visions Of Johanna - Bob Dylan
106 007 (Shanty Town) - Desmond Dekker & The Aces
105 America - Simon & Garfunkel
104 21st Century Schizoid Man - King Crimson
103 Mama Tried - Merle Haggard
102 Everyday People - Sly & The Family Stone
101 See Emily Play - Pink Floyd
100 It's Your Thing - Isley Brothers
99 All Along The Watchtower - Jimi Hendrix
98 Care Of Cell 44 - Zombies
97 Pressure Drop - Maytals
96 Give Him A Great Big Kiss - Shangri-Las
95 Cupid - Sam Cooke
94 Mrs. Robinson - Simon & Garfunkel
93 Yoo Doo Right - Can
92 River Man - Nick Drake
91 Substitute - Who
90 My Boyfriend's Back - Angels
89 1969 - Stooges
88 You Really Got Me - Kinks
87 The Tracks Of My Tears - Miracles
86 Walk Away Renee - Left Banke
85 Crying - Roy Orbison
84 You Can't Always Get What You Want - Rolling Stones
83 Down By The River - Neil Young
82 Suspicious Minds - Elvis Presley
81 Hold On, I'm Comin' - Sam & Dave
80 Subterranean Homesick Blues - Bob Dylan
79 Baby - Gal Costa
78 I Want To Take You Higher - Sly & The Family Stone
77 Heroin - Velvet Underground
76 Doctor Who (Original Theme) - BBC Radiophonic Workshop
75 The Boxer - Simon & Garfunkel
74 Papa's Got A Brand New Bag - James Brown
73 Don't Think Twice, It's All Right - Bob Dylan
72 Sweet Thing - Van Morrison
71 Manic Depression - Jimi Hendrix
70 Crazy - Patsy Cline
69 Misirlou - Dick Dale & The Del-Tones
68 Will You Love Me Tomorrow - Shirelles
67 Cinnamon Girl - Neil Young
66 The Tide Is High - Paragons
65 California Dreamin' - Mamas & The Papas
64 Runaway - Del Shannon
63 The Girl From Ipanema - Stan Getz & Joao Gilberto
62 Street Fighting Man - Rolling Stones
61 You Keep Me Hangin' On - Supremes
60 Hot Fun In The Summertime - Sly & The Family Stone
59 Sunday Morning - Velvet Underground
58 I Want To Hold Your Hand - Beatles
57 Crimson And Clover - Tommy James & The Shondelles
56 Bonnie And Clyde - Serge Gainsbourg and Brigitte Bardot
55 (Your Love Keeps Lifting Me) Higher And Higher - Jackie Wilson
54 Daydream Believer - Monkees
53 Whole Lotta Love - Led Zeppelin
52 Georgia On My Mind - Ray Charles
51 River Deep Mountain High - Ike & Tina Turner
50 Alone Again Or - Love
49 Some Velvet Morning - Lee Hazlewood and Nancy Sinatra
48 Space Oddity - David Bowie
47 Eleanor Rigby - Beatles
46 Making Time - Creation
45 Son Of A Preacher Man - Dusty Springfield
44 Where Did Our Love Go - Supremes
43 Linus And Lucy - Vince Guaraldi Trio
42 The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down - Band
41 Suzanne - Leonard Cohen
40 This Will Be Our Year - Zombies
39 Sympathy For The Devil - Rolling Stones
38 Cissy Strut - Meters
37 The Sound Of Silence - Simon & Garfunkel
36 You're Gonna Miss Me - 13th Foor Elevators
35 Ring Of Fire - Johnny Cash
34 The Kids Are Alright - Who
33 It's A Man's Man's Man's Man's World - James Brown
32 The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly (Main Theme) - Ennio Morricone
31 These Days - Nico
30 Leader Of The Pack - Shangri-Las
29 Waterloo Sunset - Kinks
28 (Sittin' On) The Dock Of The Bay - Otis Redding
27 I'm Waiting For The Man - Velvet Underground
26 I Am The Walrus - Beatles
25 Paint It Black - Rolling Stones
24 You Can't Hurry Love - Supremes
23 At Last - Etta James
22 I Heard It Through The Grapevine - Marvin Gaye
21 Good Vibrations - Beach Boys

Many strong top 10 candidates were revealed in 60-21 today, so I think the picture for tomorrow's top 20 has been clarified somewhat. There are a good number of songs which I would consider mortal locks for the top 20:

God Only Knows - Beach Boys
Respect - Aretha Franklin
A Day In The Life - Beatles
My Generation - Who
A Change Is Gonna Come - Sam Cooke
Be My Baby - Ronettes
Like A Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan
The Weight - The Band

My picks for the rest would be from this list:

Wouldn't It Be Nice - Beach Boys
Acknowledgement - John Coltrane (failing that, some other track from A Love Supreme)
In A Silent Way/It's About That Time - Miles Davis (although there are many possible tracks from his 60s ouevre, I'd be shocked if he didn't have a second entry)
Fortunate Son - Creedence Clearwater Revival
Penny Lane - Beatles (although there are at least a half-dozen other possibilities for the fifth Beatles track, that being the maximum number of songs per artist on the list)
I Got You (I Feel Good) - James Brown
My Girl - Temptations
Jumpin' Jack Flash - Rolling Stones
Gimme Shelter - Rolling Stones
Happy Together - Turtles
(You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman - Aretha Franklin
I Can't Explain - The Who
Purple Haze - Jimi Hendrix
Crosstown Traffic - Jimi Hendrix
Fire - Jimi Hendrix
I Think We're Alone Now - Tommy James and the Shondelles
Mony Mony - Tommy James and the Shondelles
I Wanna Be Your Dog - Stooges
My Guy - Mary Wells
In The Midnight Hour - Wilson Pickett
Born To Be Wild - Steppenwolf
I Can't Help Myself - Four Tops
I Say A Little Prayer - Aretha Franklin
Sunshine Of Your Love - Cream
This Old Heart Of Mine - Isley Brothers

This is my most conservative estimate, based on what I think they'll pick. It will be interesting to see if I'm close to right.

8/17/2006 View
Which Song(s) will top Pitchfork's Top 200 Songs of the 60s?

Sister Ray landed somewhere between 100 and 150, though I thought it was a likely candidate as well. And unfortunately, they announced at the beginning of the list that the top albums of the 60s list is unlikely to be forthcoming. Some other ones that occurred to me:

Can - Yoo Doo Right
Van Morrison - (anything from Astral Weeks)
Bob Dylan - Desolation Row

The bent of the list so far seems to include a great number of Motown and other soul singles, so I imagine that these tracks will also be high on the list:

Sam Cooke - A Change Is Gonna Come
Aretha Franklin - Respect
Temptations - My Girl
Ronettes - Be My Baby

etc.

8/16/2006 View
THE TOP 30 MOST OVERRATED ROCK ALBUMS

I dislike deliberate "artiness" because I feel that it impedes the fulfillment of your criteria (essentially similar to mine). In particular, I doubt that true artistic conviction and emotional depth are ever achieved when an album is constructed around the artist's expectation of a critical response to his work, or from a series of elements so obscure as to be relegated to the status of inside jokes.

Trout Mask Replica is a good example of what I mean. I've listened to it six or seven times and have yet to be impressed by more than a couple of tracks. The point that great art is challenging is a valid one, but if I can be inspired to a love for Joyce's Finnegans Wake after reading it only three times, I think affording three or four times as many spins to a mere album is more than a little excessive.

That said,I follow the posting of your top albums with interest, and I expect that once you reach the top I'll find that many of your highest choices would be among mine as well. Among those posted so far, the ones I've listened to are uniformly excellent and most if not all would be among my top albums as well. Scaruffi has exposed me to some music of great quality, and I don't entirely disagree with his opinions or method. Cheers.

8/15/2006 View
THE TOP 30 MOST OVERRATED ROCK ALBUMS

You seem to feel as I do about music; that it's a fundamentally personal experience that (despite my cerebral approach to it) frequently denies easy categorization or objective efforts to appraise value or significance.

I agree in general with your standards, although I admit I'm a little skeptical about your claim that you have no inherent prejudice against pop music. I concur with the statement that most such music is average or bad, if only because I'd contend that most of any genre or category of music is average or bad. But the fact that you consider the achievement of brilliance in pop music to be miraculous doesn't quite sit with the way I look at it, which is that pop music is perhaps the most natural outlet for the sort of affecting musical genius that you mentioned.

Of course, most great musicians existed out of the "pop" mainstream, at least in the sense that they challenged the perception or substance of contemporary music and expanded on it. I'd say that almost all truly legendary albums have avant-garde or outre elements which damaged their popularity. But there are few trends in music which I oppose more violently than self-conscious artiness and experiment for experiment's sake, without goal or direction. The smugness exhibited by artists who pursue or even openly claim such an approach strikes me as mechanical posturing, as antithetical to living, breathing music as any profit-motivated hit factory. As such, I can't say I have much interest in music which by design is so obscure or inacessible that it consistently denies the efforts of even an informed and dedicated listener; I'd describe many Scaruffi-labeled "classics" this way.

8/14/2006 View