Great thanks, I will, soon. I keep thinking that there's gotta be a better version of Schubert's 9th that I haven't heard yet, somewhere. I'll check it out.
Thanks, I can certainly understand where you're coming from.
Thanks for the brief rundown of what could make it on your list if you extended it. Would be great to see Verdi's Requiem and Shostakovich's 15th added. They each deserve to be on a (very) short list in my book. Shostakovich's 15th, while loved by some, is vastly underrated in general, even though (or because) it's among the most radical departures in symphonic history, and possibly the most fully realized, vividly detailed example of introspection in all of classical music. The profound depth and highly personalized, idiosynchratic nature of its evocations, introversion and self-reflection is probably unprecedented in classical music (especially symphonies), and perhaps only approached elsewhere in some of Beethoven's late works. And probably not approached anywhere in rock or jazz aside from Wyatt's Rock Bottom.
But yes, Wagner can be about as subtle as an elephant using the bathroom of a dollhouse. They each may share a similar level of conviction, though Wagner has much more, ahem, "professional" results :)
It's been a long time away from the "Ring" so I'm not totally sure where I'll rank/rate it. Been a long time for Tristan und Isolde too but it is definitely one of the towering masterpieces in all art, and most likely a 9.5, or maybe 9.6, on my scale.
You have such enthusiasm and valuable insights on art, it would be really cool to see you extend (and preferably even make an attempt to rate/rank?) these lists. Maybe this was taken up elsewhere, but have you ever considered it?
His "Ring" would definitely be on my 8.8+ list (possibly 9.3+) ... it's a lot to consume so it won't be the first work(s) I take on - though maybe I'll do a part every few days or a week stretched out over a few weeks or a month or something. I'll be revisiting Tristan & Isolde first though (probably this week or next, probably 9.4-9.6 range).
Just checked out your "Favourite Classical Musics" list. I don't think I've heard your 9.9/10. Any words to describe it?
Oh, btw, I strongly recommend you don't see Gilliam's Brazil, especially The Final Cut! I recently rewatched it and it's not like it's as incredible as Escalator Over The Hill or anything.
Alas, the week ended Sunday. Poor me, it's hopeless... Oh! Such woe! I am but a forgotten tadpole in this vague, dreamy stream of consciousness we call living... :(
But wait! It's a new week! Maybe a better one even? :)
NOTE: this list needs a bit of updating... several entries wouldn't hold today, many would... For current ratings/rankings, see my most updated "Greatest of All Time" lists for each category separately: "Classical", "Film", and "Rock & Jazz" ...
As for this one, I'll probably update it soon (paintings included), and try to keep it evolving from there...
Listening to the top 4 9.6's, all within the last 2 weeks, has changed my scale slightly. The 9.5's I dropped to 9.4 did not suddenly get worse for me -- there's just a little too much of a gap for it to only be 0.1 between them and those 9.6's ... most likely exception is Shostakovich's 15th which very well may be 9.5 but (for now?) I'm going with 9.4...
Note: it is looking increasingly possible that Beethoven has something on the order of 20+ 8.8/10 - 9.2/10 music works and possibly even 5+ 9.3/10+ works. Listed already are the 9th & 5th Symphonies, and from memory Missa Solemnis is probably one, possibly Fidelio, possibly his Piano Sonata #32, and maybe even one of his late String Quartets.
Done :) Now, onto lots of stuff I haven't heard in a while + new discoveries + continuing to listen to what's already on here. Hundreds of entries to come (lucky me!)
Great thanks, I will, soon. I keep thinking that there's gotta be a better version of Schubert's 9th that I haven't heard yet, somewhere. I'll check it out.
Thanks, I can certainly understand where you're coming from.
Thanks for the brief rundown of what could make it on your list if you extended it. Would be great to see Verdi's Requiem and Shostakovich's 15th added. They each deserve to be on a (very) short list in my book. Shostakovich's 15th, while loved by some, is vastly underrated in general, even though (or because) it's among the most radical departures in symphonic history, and possibly the most fully realized, vividly detailed example of introspection in all of classical music. The profound depth and highly personalized, idiosynchratic nature of its evocations, introversion and self-reflection is probably unprecedented in classical music (especially symphonies), and perhaps only approached elsewhere in some of Beethoven's late works. And probably not approached anywhere in rock or jazz aside from Wyatt's Rock Bottom.
Be gone for ye have sinned! :)
But yes, Wagner can be about as subtle as an elephant using the bathroom of a dollhouse. They each may share a similar level of conviction, though Wagner has much more, ahem, "professional" results :)
It's been a long time away from the "Ring" so I'm not totally sure where I'll rank/rate it. Been a long time for Tristan und Isolde too but it is definitely one of the towering masterpieces in all art, and most likely a 9.5, or maybe 9.6, on my scale.
Great description, sounds really interesting.
Lol re "Ssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhh" :)
You have such enthusiasm and valuable insights on art, it would be really cool to see you extend (and preferably even make an attempt to rate/rank?) these lists. Maybe this was taken up elsewhere, but have you ever considered it?
Verdi's Requiem & Shostakovich's 15th. Sentence.
His "Ring" would definitely be on my 8.8+ list (possibly 9.3+) ... it's a lot to consume so it won't be the first work(s) I take on - though maybe I'll do a part every few days or a week stretched out over a few weeks or a month or something. I'll be revisiting Tristan & Isolde first though (probably this week or next, probably 9.4-9.6 range).
Awesome, Zacharyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, thanks :)
Just checked out your "Favourite Classical Musics" list. I don't think I've heard your 9.9/10. Any words to describe it?
Oh, btw, I strongly recommend you don't see Gilliam's Brazil, especially The Final Cut! I recently rewatched it and it's not like it's as incredible as Escalator Over The Hill or anything.
;)
Whoa! Maybe I should re-listen to it soon? :)
Alas, the week ended Sunday. Poor me, it's hopeless... Oh! Such woe! I am but a forgotten tadpole in this vague, dreamy stream of consciousness we call living... :(
But wait! It's a new week! Maybe a better one even? :)
NOTE: this list needs a bit of updating... several entries wouldn't hold today, many would... For current ratings/rankings, see my most updated "Greatest of All Time" lists for each category separately: "Classical", "Film", and "Rock & Jazz" ...
As for this one, I'll probably update it soon (paintings included), and try to keep it evolving from there...
Listening to the top 4 9.6's, all within the last 2 weeks, has changed my scale slightly. The 9.5's I dropped to 9.4 did not suddenly get worse for me -- there's just a little too much of a gap for it to only be 0.1 between them and those 9.6's ... most likely exception is Shostakovich's 15th which very well may be 9.5 but (for now?) I'm going with 9.4...
Note: it is looking increasingly possible that Beethoven has something on the order of 20+ 8.8/10 - 9.2/10 music works and possibly even 5+ 9.3/10+ works. Listed already are the 9th & 5th Symphonies, and from memory Missa Solemnis is probably one, possibly Fidelio, possibly his Piano Sonata #32, and maybe even one of his late String Quartets.
This is mind-boggling...
Done :) Now, onto lots of stuff I haven't heard in a while + new discoveries + continuing to listen to what's already on here. Hundreds of entries to come (lucky me!)
This was the greatest week of music that I've ever experienced.