The 100 Most Influential Artists of the 20th Century
Submitted by Nick Vane on Fri, 05/09/2003 - 03:14
Tags:
- the Beatles
- James Brown
- the Velvet Underground
- Chuck Berry
- Hank Williams
- Elvis Presley
- Bob Dylan
- Kraftwerk
- Sam Cooke
- Bob Marley
- Black Sabbath
- Joni Mitchell
- Django Reinhardt
- Lee 'Scratch' Perry
- Charley Patton
- Grandmaster Flash
- Big Star
- Brian Eno
- Buddy Holly
- the Pixies
- Ornette Coleman
- Stevie Wonder
- Sonic Youth
- Sly and the Family Stone
- David Bowie
- Elvis Costello
- Pink Floyd
- Van Morrison
- the Fall
- John Coltrane
- Metallica
- Fugazi
- Jimi Hendrix
- the Clash
- Led Zeppelin
- Kool DJ Herc
- Nick Drake
- Motorhead
- My Bloody Valentine
- Pavement
- KISS
- Bessie Smith
- Ramones
- Dizzy Gillespie
- Run-DMC
- Black Flag
- Slayer
- the Skatelites
- Beat Happening
- the Sex Pistols
- Miles Davis
- R.E.M.
- the Rolling Stones
- Michael Jackson
- Massive Attack
- Parliament
- the Stooges
- Husker Du
- Public Enemy
- Minor Threat
- the Beach Boys
- Nirvana
- Big Daddy Kane
- Can
- MC5
- Crass
- Johnny Cash
- AC/DC
- the Doors
- NWA
- Minutemen
- Buzzcocks
- Larry Norman
- Venom
- Beastie Boys
- U2
- Joy Division
- Television
- Kleenex
- Frank Zappa
- the Kinks
- the Smiths
- Uncle Tupelo
- Moss Icon
- the Stone Roses
- the Specials
- Smashing Pumpkins
- Blondie
- Gang of Four
- X-Ray Spex
- Patti Smith
- Mudhoney
- Wu-Tang Clan
- Boogie Down Productions
- Pere Ubu
- Morbid Angel
- Bauhaus
- 2 Live Crew
- Captain Beefheart
- Guided By Voices
Author Comments:
This is as per a request from THE Experience. It's a first draft, but it'll do. I know it's been a while since I rapped at ya (to borrow a phrase). I hope everyone's well.
Enjoy.








Wow! Quite the list. Well done!
For my money, Chuck Berry should probably top Elvis, and Bob Dylan and Miles Davis are much, much, much too far down the list (as is Costello), while KISS, The Beatles, Sam Cooke, and Big Star (as much as I love those last three) are too high. IF we're talking quality over influence, then Black Sabbath, though another great band, is also too high.
Smashing Pumpkins and 2 Live Crew have no place here.
But hey, that would then be my list, not yours.
Very nice to see James Brown and Hank Williams placed near the top.
A very noble effort!
Shalom, y'all!
L. Bangs
One last note: No Louis Armstrong? Either through influence (much greater than most suspect; he and Hank Williams perhaps have more to do with the formation of the structure of pop songs than any other artists, Chuck Berry being a notable exception) or quality, I would think he would find a home here.
Shalom, y'all!
L. Bangs
Influence being my aim here, I will definitely looks at Mr. Armstrong's accomplishments.
Interesting list. The title says 100 greatest artists but on your link you specify it as Rock and Roll. If you are not specifying Rock and Roll then there are some serious 20th century musical artists missing such as Frank Sinatra, Ella Fitzgerald, Cole Porter, Irvin Berlin. Just to name a few.
If you mean Rock and Roll, where is The Who, Robert Johnson, Bruce Springsteen. Just to name a few.
Yeah, I am playing fast and loose with the words "rock and roll". But here's the thing...the person who is commissioning the lists said that this thing can include rap, jazz, blues etc. I drew the line at composers (Stockhausen was out, as was Cage) and producers (or else Spector would be so, so high).
I'm going to fix the title, even though that's what the originator called it, because you're all right: "greatest" and "influential" are two different things, and I'm trying to weigh influence here.
That said, this is a first draft, and all your suggestions (escpecially' lbangs' placement criticisms) will be accordingly taken into consideration.
Influence, huh? Well then, certainly scratch my comments about Black Sabbath.
This makes The Beatles placement even more problematic. Sure, they influenced hordes, but they weren't rock's great innovators, as many suppose. For the most part, they were rock's great, er, mainstreamers, taking some of the more experimental strains floating about and selling it to the masses. What to do? Tough call.
If we're talking influence, then Dylan unquestionably belongs near the very top. Brown and the Velvets are great calls, but frankly, CHUCK BERRY is the artist who belongs on top here (pun oddly enough not intended and only discovered on rereading...). He beat Elvis to the punch, and even the Beatles built around his guitar licks. Besides his claim of being first at the game, his playing and songwriting still echo everywhere in music today. Not even my man Dylan exerted the influence Berry has over rock music. Nobody does.
The Who could fit in here nicely. May I strongly suggest The Byrds deserve a strong showing? Up through Tom Petty, Big Star, and REM, they had a huge influence on what much of music sounds like today. After that sound, with Gram Parsons as a member, they practically invented country rock, making them godfathers to the alt.country music and Wilco to boot! I'm not sure there is a strand of rock music with the word 'alternative' in the title that doesn't owe a huge amount to The Byrds. In fact, their influence is much more obvious today than two decades ago!
Aretha Franklin was the original diva. The best too. That surely doesn't put her near the top, but it does probably buy her a slot on the list.
Also delete my thoughts on Sam Cooke. Good call!
Might I also suggest that if you were British, you might put the Kinks a little higher?
I'm not really sure we can quite yet tell if Lee Perry's influnce on rock will really be quite that strong. Marley too, despite his excellent quality. Has reggae really seeped so strongly into mainstream rock to merit a top ten placement?
I still don't see that Smashing Pumpkins or 2 Live should be on here. 2 Live with Run DMC missing? Nope.
I'm babbling, and frankly, you may be sick of my comments. Forgive me for going on so long. I really love this list; I usually focus on quality, so it is fun to think a bit about influence. You've really done some fantastic work here on a tough and tangled topic!
Good show!
Shalom, y'all!
L. Bangs
Hey, I welcome comments. I did this in the span of four days, and wihle I'l pretty confident about relative placing, it's nice to have people willing to challenge me to defend myself (or to capitulate to a more informed opinion)
Run-DMC is at 45... I just figured that the controversy with 2 Live's album content set the tone for the lyrical content of a Too $hort, Master P, and a slew of argued-about rappers. That oughtta count for something. Plus their bass-heavy sound had repercussions (no pun intended), especially throughout the South.
My omission of the Byrds is a huge oversight. Thanks for reminding me; I'll definitely need to fix that soon.
As far as the Beatles go, I'm heavily influenced by "Revolution in the Head" by Ian McDonald. So I gave them the number one (almost by default, honestly) because they synthesized the work of conceptual artists (Stockhausen), self-contained songwriters (Buddy Holly, Dylan), indian musicians (take your pick) into something that untold numbers of musicians drew from. Did Lennon invent feedback? No. Did Sir Paul and Sir George invent the mainstream potential of string? Nope. But I gotta give them the ultimate honor for taking on so many experiments, having so many succeed, and thus serving as a model for nearly everyone with artistic ambitions since.
Plus, there's Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, which, while still amazing in retrospect, really sent a shockwave. I mean, when you have the Bee Gees and Neil Diamond attempting conceptual and visionary albums, you've really done some mad damage. The Beatles really were light-years ahead in their belief in what rock could do.
I love Mr. Berry, so we shall see. He was the first great rock 'n' roll lyricist, really made the music a universal form rather than the borderline salacious fare it typically was. I gave Elvis the nod because of his more overt fusion of blues, country 'n' rock, which has been discussed to death by more qualified people than I. Again, a book that heavily influenced me here was The Beatles Anthology, where at least three of the lads marking their first listen of "Heartbreak Hotel" as Ground Zero for their incipient lvoe of rock 'n' roll. Chuck wrote the language, but Elvis seems to be the ambassador.
Mr. Perry is probably too high, but I stuck him there because of his role in reggae's expansion, and his relentless pursuit of mind-blowing studio sounds, which anticipated and then filtered into much of today's electronica, esp. dub, drum 'n' bass, and ambient house.
Mr. Marley, like Mr. Presley, was an ambassador. His music has surely impressed as many bad white jam bands as freethinking rastas, but as a non-American making grooving, political music, his influence is major. I can think of the mid-90s boom of alternative rappers (De La Soul, A Tribe Called Quest, Fugees) as well as an influx of world musicians (Manu Chao, of course reggae in general) as a couple of examples.
It's not just mainstream rock, otherwise I'd have to drop Beat Happening. I decided that I wanted to make value judgments (as best as my easily-swayed and partial mind can make 'em) about the relative worth of each artist's influence. the Pumpkins re-established the musical ideas of 70s arena rock into alternative, which, as it turns out, has had a bigger impact on today's pragmatic modern rock than Nirvana's more dogmatic strain, which has been copied in form but less in approach.
I'm not sick of any comments. If you have more, send 'em my way, please. This may come out poorly - but it's not meant to - I would love to see other people's lists! The website for whom I did this wants lists of all stripes, and there are a ton of more knowledgable people on this site who would create some thought-provoking stuff.
Those are perfectly good and acceptable reason for The Beatles making a high showing. Nice comments.
I'm still not quite convinced that the reggae artists merit quite so high (snicker) a rating. A number eight showing Marley's influence on jam bands is quite a statement when The Grateful Dead are nowhere near. ;)
I'm still rather baffled about Dylan's low ranking. Not only has influenced nearly every songwriter since the early 60s, he also wired blues with Highway 61 Revisited and helped the Byrds give country-rock credibility with his post Blonde on Blonde albums. His influence is so far reaching, it is tough to discern it. It is nearly omnipresent. Sonic Youth more influential? Joni Mithcell? Both great artist with several killer albums, but their combined influence still couldn't approach Dylan's.
As for Berry, believe a musician's music over his or her comments any day. A few of them may claim Elvis, but nearly every song of theirs scream Chuck Berry. In fact, I wager Paul, John, George, Ringo all four wouldn't argue with Berry claiming the top spot. They heard him roll Beethoven over.
I think Soundgarden deserves the credit you give to Smashing Pumpkins, and I not sure that they didn't bring more 70s Prog Rock to the 90s than Arena Rock. Green Day and Nine Inch Nails have easily had more influence on rock music from the mid-90s on than Smashing Pumpkins. Easily.
But hey, just my opinions. Your list has got my wheels churning more than most. I love it!
Shalom, y'all!
L. Bangs
excellent excellent. I'll consider what you say and I gotta thank you and jgandcag for your comments. We've got some good differences here. It's good to be back.
I think I'm gonna give you Dylan and Berry, but I'm gonna reserve Marley and Perry for now...
Sorry for the flurry of comments (I'm not trying to pad), but if anything, the "alternative" music of today seems split between the self-pitying, bombastic rock bent of latter-day Pumpkins and the self-pitying brattiness of early-era Green Day. Maybe some future perspective will be needed to reveal a clear winner. Soundgarden just seems out of the running to me, but that's just what I think right now.
Giving this all another thought, maybe for both Soundgarden and Smashing Pumpkins, we should be reading Pearl Jam. The entire post-grunge scene, it seems, took major cues from them, down to the re-emergence of the husky vocalist.
Great list. Maybe I'll clone it and try my own some time.
Interesting that we both tend to bypass many genres a lot (and I mean WAY too many) males my age would feel necessary here. No hair metal, no real 70s arena rock a la Styx, no fringe prog rockers, no Motley Crue, no Rush...
We may have differently game plans, but I do believe we are certainly on the same field.
Kudos and cheers!
Shalom, y'all!
L. Bangs
Yeah, AC/DC and Kiss were my (slight) nods to hair metal and riff rock a la Aerosmith, but including those two instead of cheese metal acts (which we both rightfully despise) hopefully retains some credibility and displays my healthy respect for the classic rock genre.
Prog can be inferred from Black Sabbath's later years, perhaps... maybe from the Zep... but that's not why I included them (as you already deduced) so I'll just shut my eyes to that fact.
Whee! Thanks for the thought about Pearl Jam.
A convincing argument likely exists for Vedder and co. For some reason, I bypassed them on first go. I can hear more Pearl Jam in Creed, Staind et al than I can Corgan, whose overambitious sights were always set firmly above the horizon.
Great list! i would put The Who, Faith no more, and Yes somewhere in there.
Yeah, I've been getting consistent feedback on the Who, but I'm fuzzier as to where Faith No More and Yes fit into the grand scheme of rock music. I would put Yes on the receiving end of influences like Pink Floyd et al, although I could maybe see FNM as a forerunner to today's style-devouring modern rock.
On second thoughts, Yes probably wasn't the most thought out suggestion. Faith no more has definately had a huge influence on modern rock, mainly your nu-metal/rap-metal bands.
btw good to see Kraftwerk up high.
Oh - thank you for your comments!
No Marvin Gaye? No Otis Redding?
I cry.
Really intresting list , its very eclectic and diverse but I think you missed 2 people in particular. The first one is Mahalia Jackson , she was the greatest Gospel singer to ever live and you can see her influence on Aretha Franklin to Mariah Carey to Yolanda Adams. The second (and the most important) is Billie Holiday , besides being the greatest vocalist to ever live , she influenced everyone , and I mean everyone from Sinatra to Janis Joplin to Sarah Vaughan to Aretha Franklin to The Beatles to Etta James to Norah Jones ...etc..etc..etc. I think she deserves a top 10 placing for her extreme importance. You might want to add Fats Domino , Louis Jordan , Joni Mitchell , Little Richard. But really great job at adding Patti Smith , The Beastie Boys , and for putting the Velvet Underground in the top 5.
why the hell is Hendrix so lo on the list?! Jimi redefined the guitar!
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