1997: Movies Sorted By Tier
Submitted by stooky on Sun, 05/23/2004 - 01:32
Tags:
- Great
- Fast, Cheap And Out Of Control
- Happy Together
- Jackie Brown
- Kolya
- L.A. Confidential
- Open Your Eyes
- Shall We Dance?
- The Sweet Hereafter
- Titanic
- Very Good
- 4 Little Girls
- The Apostle
- As Good As It Gets
- Boogie Nights
- Eve's Bayou
- Face/Off
- Flamenco
- The Full Monty
- Good Will Hunting
- Hard Eight
- Hercules
- Kundun
- Love Serenade
- Men In Black
- Prisoner Of The Mountains
- Sunday
- The Tango Lesson
- Ulee's Gold
- Underworld
- Wag The Dog
- Waiting For Guffman
- Welcome To Sarajevo
- Good
- Addicted To Love
- All Over Me
- Austin Powers
- Box Of Moonlight
- Brassed Off
- Breakdown
- Career Girls
- Chasing Amy
- Contact
- Crash
- Deconstructing Harry
- Donnie Brasco
- The Edge
- The Game
- Gattaca
- Gridlock'd
- Grosse Point Blank
- The Hanging Garden
- The Ice Storm
- In And Out
- In The Company Of Men
- Irma Vep
- Kissed
- The Long Way Home
- Love Jones
- Margaret's Museum
- Mimic
- Mrs. Brown
- One Night Stand
- The Pillow Book
- Ponette
- Scream 2
- Shiloh
- Starship Troopers
- Washington Square
- The Wings Of The Dove
- The Winter Guest
- Guilty Pleasures
- Conspiracy Theory
- The Fifth Element
- G.I. Jane (the suck my d**k line makes me giddy with laughter)
- Hugo Pool
- The Saint
- Til There Was You
- Twin Town
- Average
- The 6th Man
- Absolute Power
- Alien Ressurection
- Alive And Kicking
- Anastasia (for the bat)
- Batman & Robin
- The Beautician And The Beast
- Children Of The Revolution
- Cop Land
- Critical Care
- The Daytrippers
- The Devil's Own
- Different For Girls
- Dreams With The Fishes
- Excess Baggage
- George Of The Jungle
- Good Burger
- The House Of Yes
- Inventing The Abbots
- Julian Po
- The Last Time I Commited Suicide
- Love! Valour! Compassion!
- Matchmaker
- Midnight In The Garden Of Good And Evil
- Mouse Hunt
- My Best Friend's Wedding
- The Myth Of Fingerprints
- Night Falls On Manhattan
- Nowhere
- Operation Condor
- The Peacemaker
- Private Parts
- The Rainmaker
- Rocket Man
- Selena
- She's So Lovely
- Soul Food
- SubUrbia
- Sweethearts
- A Thousand Acres
- Tomorrow Never Dies
- Touch
- Unhook The Stars
- The Van
- Volcano
- Disappointing
- Amistad
- Bean
- Bliss
- Booty Call
- Breaking Up
- Cat's Don't Dance
- Commandments
- Con Air
- Dante's Peak
- The Devil's Advocate
- The End Of Violence
- Event Horizon
- Fierce Creatures
- Fools Rush In
- For Richer Or Poorer
- Going All The Way
- Grind
- In Love And War
- Jackie Chan's First Strike
- Kama Sutra
- Keys To Tulsa
- Kiss The Girls
- Liar Liar
- Money Talks
- Playing God
- Relic
- Rosewood
- Seven Years In Tibet
- Shadow Conspiracy
- A Simple Wish
- Smilla's Sense Of Snow
- Spawn
- Steel
- Truth Or Consequences, N.M.
- U-Turn
- Cellar Dwellers
- 8 Heads In A Duffel Bag
- Albino Alligator
- An American Werewolf In Paris
- Anaconda
- Beverly Hills Ninja
- Flubber
- Good Luck
- The Jackal
- Jungle 2 Jungle
- Kull The Conqueror
- A Life Less Ordinary
- Lost Highway
- Lost World: Jurassic Park
- McHale's Navy
- Meet Wally Sparks
- Metro
- Most Wanted
- Nothing To Lose
- Picture Perfect
- Romy And Michelle's High School Red Corner
- Reunion
- Switchback
- Temptress Moon
- Trial And Error
- Wes Craven's Wishmaster
- The Big Stink
- Double Team
- Fire Down Below (what a title)
- Gone Fishin'
- The Pest
- Speed II: Cruise Control
- Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation
- Turbulence
- Unfortunately Haven’t Seen
- Afterglow
- Blood And Wine
- The Disappearance Of Garcia Lorca
- Forgotten Silver
- Ma Vie En Rose
- Prefontaine
- Traveller
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You saw Double Team and you can still see? You must truly have calluses on your eyeballs.
So if you see a bad movie that you enjoyed, does it go under "Cellar Dwellers" or lower anyway, or does it go higher?
It's good you asked this question because I was thinking of setting up a special section for the awful movies I enjoyed. Any suggestions as to the name of such a section? Perhaps, The Meaty Crappers or maybe I'll just do Guilty Pleasures.
As for Double Team, I have no idea why I watched that thing. I think someone else rented it and I was so enervated by the stankness I couldn't move.
Tallyho
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I think it's going to be "Guilty Pleasures" for me. I was thinking I'd bite the bullet and just file *everything* I like under "good" (as I did for Evolution in 2001), but eventually I'll year-ify 1980 and I just can't put Flash Gordon under "good". Nor can I put it under "disappointing."
I'm gonna put the Guilty Pleasures right under good and hopefully fool someone into watching them. >:?D I understand your problem. You know they're not good, but you can't help but like them. Identification with characters or just a lapse in judgement? Have you ever watched a guilty pleasure a second time to see if you liked it?
Tallyho
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I've found it a dangerous practice to watch guilty pleasures from my youth. It's a nostalgia-killer. I haven't rewatched any guilty pleasures in quite awhile now. I felt semi-guilty about The Fifth Element and liked that on a semi-recent rewatch though.
The Fifth Element caused me guilt as well. Actually I saw it with 2 other films of which I can only vaguely remember. Wait, Con Air and Gone Fishin', that was the other 2. It astounded me how daring the story was and yet it didn't take any risks, strange movie. Luc Besson actually started out as an avante film-maker. He made a silent war film the title of which I can't remember and a really strange movie with C. Lambert called Subway. Both are kinda good. And La Femme Nikita of course. Did you ever see the TV spin-off of that?
Anyway, I lost my train of thought so...
Tallyho
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I didn't know there was a TV spin-off of La Femme Nikita, but I did see the Bridget Fonda remake, Point of No Return. "Point of no Comparison" more like, although I didn't think the remake was awful. Just not nearly as good as the original.
Ah yes, it was a television mustardpiece that last five seasons. Peta Wilson, Roy Dupris and other acting heavyweights uncover the deep dark secrets of Section One. Why don't you check out this, its a wonderful thing, you may want to buy or you may want to run. Isn't that the glory of life?
Tallyho
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hi stooky m8. As i really enjoy your posts i was searching through your posts and found '1997 by tier' and thought 'ok this is gonna be good'
and i was..right :)
i was happy to see jackie brown at the top tier of your list as many people think its the 'Weaker' of the Tarantino films but i strongly disagree.
im A fan of Taratino, and although the lack of 'Time shifting' you expect from the master of cool movies, may through people off. it has one (if not the) strongest storylines, in the sense that it revolved around one thing, as his other movies focus on multiple storylines (3 way story pulp fiction, and the multi-friendship storys in Reservoir Dogs)
well sorry for maybe the LONGEST POST ever!! ;)
lol ok bb stooky, from A_Movie_Fan
I totally agree...but that's obvious from the placement on the list.
A very astute point about the storyline (which is based on Elmore Leonard's Rum Punch, one of his finest pulp novels) and his evocative "time shifting". However, I think that it shares the multiple-angle examination of a scene employed by "Reservoir Dogs".
Jackie Brown I consider Quentin's second strongest film (after Pulp of course) because of its emotionality, (Something lacking from Reservoir and Kill Bill 1. They're technically brilliant executions of cinema but they can be a bit cold. "Kill Bill Vol. 2" could usurp Jackie but I'll have to watch it again.) and Pam Grier and Robert Forster's magnificent performances.
Tallyho
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Stooky, Its me A Movie Fan, but ive changed my name to 'Rushmore' because its short anad easier to say :)
so all of my responses to your prev.posts have changed to 'Rushmore'.
so bb form Rushmore (A movie Fan..aka Andy :)
check. Luckily I was online when the strange occurance happened. Jim is one smooth customer.
Tallyho
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I like to joke that it was a wonder James Cameron didn't have the Titanic collide with a nuclear warhead given his demonstrated fondness for them in his previous movies.
Mimic, my fave giant cockroach movie. Oh that film is filthy, but disgusting. "Mister Funny Shoes!"
There's a hilarious review of Starship Troopers but darned if I can find the link. Do you remember where that went Jim?
Alien Resurrection is not average. Jeez! It's the ugliest movie ever made (as far as I know). The theatrical release version should be burned in giant bonfires, but there is a better version available on the latest dvd re-issue.
I liked The Edge - intelligence triumphs over evil - I have to believe it - "They died saving my life." That's nobilty.
Con Air's a hoot. Underrated, man. Nick Cage is another one you don't like, isn't he.
Fight Club (I know it's not here) has a scene in which a guy beats himself up. Can you think of another movie in which a guy beats himself up? It's here...anybody?...anybody?
Anaconda - I wonder if La Jolie saw it and how she felt about seeing her dad regurgitated by a giant snake.
The Jackal. This is The Jackal with Bruce Willis, Richard Gere and Sidney Poitier? No, you're so wrong. Watch it again. Not great, but much better than a cellar dweller.
Sorry about the pissed off tone of this posting, but you pissed me off...at least twice.
"She turned me into a newt!..........I got better."
Here's your original reference to the review, but when I tried to load it I got a timeout error. Not sure if that site is down temporarily or permanently.
Oh well...it wasn't all that funny. [A glass of sour grape juice please waiter.]
Ha! If only.
Mine too, whatd'ya know about that. Well that and the scene from Beetlejuice. Saw it in the theatre and it was real good, It does have the dorkiest ending I can remember.
It won't load. :?(
Re: A:R - I'm not sure I wanted to see so many puce close-ups of drooling aliens and disgusting deaths. My personal favorite being the host who goes insane, grabs the bad guys head and as the chest-burster emerges it rams through his head as well. I love the close-up, because then I can see the writhing little alien writhing around his bursted head. That was joyful. But even better is that "thing" at the end with its disgusting wiggling nose. That's just something I didn't ever need to see.
Plus: Beginning, underwater scene, Escape from pod chamber scene, Sigourney Weaver's creepy performance, Ron Pearlman, Parts of the ending.
Minus: Wynona "The Bona" Ryder, Gross-out close-ups, Most of the ending, That creature thing, The plot.
Oops. Another misplaced one. Fixed. I enjoyed it as well, it was good man vs. man vs. nature cheese-fest, complete with killer bear. Unbelievable but fun.
Michael Bay again my friend, and he lost me with the evil gay tranvestite who gets bitch-slapped cus he wouldn't get out of the way. I mean, what the heck?
I'm trying not to get pulled into such nefarious goings-on but I'm pretty sure its...ug...Double Team. In which Jean-Claude kicks his own ass, woohoo. Although he was supposed to be two seperate characters, so I'm not quite sure.
Yep, I also had the same wonderation. I'm thinking she tought it was cool considering what a wild one she is.
The Jackal? Sometimes I worry about your sanity Bert.
I'm a reaction elliciting kinda guy, it's expected.
T'ho
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Alien: Resurrection the ugliest film ever made?
You haven't watched Salo, or the 120 Days of Sodom have you?
(Well, no, I haven't either, but from what I know about what is in the film, it easily, easily takes the cake, and no Alien film is any competition. The original Criterion release also goes for hundreds of dollars on ebay. I feel the need to comment on that, but knowing that many just want a complete collection, I shan't.)
Shalom, y'all!
L. Bangs
I'm never sure what to do about 3rd person posts in my lists. So I shall do this.
I didn't actually see that one but Passolini generally gets an over-inflated grossness factor for his willingness to douse his actors in crap. Now if I had smellovision that would be a different story.
T'ho
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No, no, no. This film is ugly for entirely different reasons. I seriously doubt this film's reputation is over-rated, and I know it goes quite a bit beyond 'gross-out'.
If you're really curious, look it up somewhere. I warn you in advance.
Shalom, y'all!
L. Bangs
Ewwwww. The right-up on allmovie guide just mentions what the movie is about, you're right, that sounds really gross, if not disturbingly horrible. I'm not sure I really want to see it.
Over to you Bert.
T'ho
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That does sound pretty horrible. On the plus side, I learned a new word. :-)
what new word?
I've always heard that the best way to remember a new word is to use it in everyday conversation three or four times daily for about a week or so.
Good luck...
Shalom, y'all!
L. Bangs (who knows Lukeprog will figure out which word if he scans the review of the film at allmovie.com...)
Oh, lol. Is it a bad thing that I already knew what that word meant? :-)
I ran across it a couple months ago somewhere else and looked it up.
This is the new movie I'm going to strongly recommend all my friends watch to test whether or not they really like me :-)
Do you have a dog (which might explain knowing the word's meaning), and if so, will they let you keep it once you move to the big white room (which might be where your friends consign you after watching Salo)?
Shalom, y'all!
L. Bangs
:-)
One of the many interesting choices made by 1,001 Movies You Must See Before You Die is the inclusion of that movie (and one of the reasons I have no intention of giving that (excellent) book carte blanche in driving my "to see" list :-).
I consulted several of my film guides (as most Listologists have probably guessed, I have a ton of film guides), and while the mean score is ZERO, the average is closer to slightly-below-average, with one guide (which I tend to like) granting it a *** 1/2 out of four stars.
I had the chance to watch this once, but on that day I was already depressed, and that night might mark the one and only time I have ever turned down watching a film because of its disturbing content.
(Luckily, I already knew about the film. My friends played coy trying to entice me into seeing it. "Uh, I think it might be a little gross...")
Shalom, y'all!
L. Bangs
Would that guide be Videohound or is my memory failing me (3 1/2)? They seem to like many movies by the big P.
T'ho
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No, I believe Videohound gave it somewhere around two stars (excuse me, bones).
The guide with the high review was Steven Scheuer's Movies on TV and Video, a publication that went out of print with the 94 edition (which is the one I have). It was a very good guide, and I hate to see it gone.
Shalom, y'all!
L. Bangs
Thankyou, I also have 2 editions of said book, one 86 one 93. Did you know they contradict each other on about half the films and the 93 version is missing a lot of deleted minor films included in the 86. The sad realization may dawn upon you that I've actually read these books well enough to notice, but what the heck, I'm Canadian. Isn't that what the commercial says.
T'ho
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The other film on this list in which a man beats the shit out of himself is Liar Liar. Surprised no one picked that out yet!
That's probably the one Bert was talking about. Good one Luke. Jim Carrey is possibly the best comedian to make interminable bad movies since Jerry Lewis (and maybe even the mighty Belushi Bee).
T'ho
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I hope you're not calling Liar Liar 'interminably bad'.
Would "longly bourgeoisie" be more condusive. :?)
T'ho
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Oh, you mean like Renoir's Rules of the Game? Well, I wouldn't put it in that company, but if that's how you feel...
Touche.
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Movies In Which A Character Commits Aggravated Self-Assault .
wow! low rating for Carrey's 2nd best *comic* performance in Liar Liar. why?? We Need To Know Why! :-)
Bail-out-ending-itis would be the exact reason I can't stand Liar Liar, and as with all Carey comedies the best stuff always comes at the beginning when his character's nasty impulses let fly, much like Jerry Lewis. To be blunt, I hate movies that telegraph their tear-jerks then attempt to jerk tears anyway. I want to tell the writer "Learn how to plot better ignoramous and you won't have to (mentioned above)" and then smack him about the head with ping-pong paddles. Carey is definately funny, especially when he tries to hold back the comments about the employees in his office and kicking the crap out of himself. Unfortunately someone just had to tack on a sappy ending, so maybe I should call it Hollywood-bail-out-itis.
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